Work VisaSep 26, 2019
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TechLead is exposing Facebook

Is it really true about Visa abuse?

T-Mobile JuzV61 Sep 26, 2019

As a visa holder myself I dont agree with all of what he is saying but I have seen instances of managers taking advantage of the situation, hell I have myself been in a situation couple of times where I had to do overtime work. But I dont agree with his cheap labor remark, my TC with 1 yoe is 160k right out of college. Its not cheap labor package as far as I am concerned.

T-Mobile JuzV61 Sep 26, 2019

I agree with that even though there might be places who abuse the system as cheap labor like consultancies and vendors, its not like all of the immigrants are cheap labor displacing lical talents.

T-Mobile JuzV61 Sep 26, 2019

So that is good for the economy right, more busnesses and startups means more jobs for ppl. Not everyone is going to create a new company and be a millionaire and billionaire, so its a win win right. Where is the cheap labor in the picture, btw have u seen the startup salaries everyone pays above 100k these days which is well above the median.

Uber jojorabbit Sep 26, 2019

It’s definitely true that Indians on visa are a lot more slaved to visas and employers than other folks due to us immigration policy. Basically no path to green card for Indians (anywhere from 10 years to 150) , but you can get green card in <1 year for anyone else

EPAM Systems jdHsn64 Sep 26, 2019

How exactly did you make the jump between your two paragraphs baffles me.

Amazon The River Sep 26, 2019

@EPAM What's baffling about that connection, perfectly logical. Are you playing dumb or really dumb?

Citadel Securities wagecuck3 Sep 26, 2019

If you're on H-1B and you're a software engineer at Facebook, surely you can quit and transfer your H-1B to another company if you're being exploited. No one should be abused at work, but I don't think people can say that it was being on H-1B that made them unable to escape the abuse.

T-Mobile JuzV61 Sep 26, 2019

True that, it is difficult but doable.

Amazon The River Sep 26, 2019

Doable but I think techlead's point is, if you are putting in 12 hours/day to try not getting fired, depressed and feeling low, it would be hard. It's not like he could have taken 3-6 months off to unwind. Depression could really bring one down.

Weatherford International mangobling Sep 26, 2019

What’s he saying (tl;dw version)

EPAM Systems jdHsn64 Sep 26, 2019

A whole lotta Nothing

Facebook public2 Sep 26, 2019

Do you guys know the meaning of slavery? The comparison is appalling... slavery was a real thing and not that long ago.

Facebook public2 Sep 26, 2019

Terrible regardless. How can a voluntary and highly paid job be even remotely related to slavery. I'm not disagreeing that work visas are not misleading or could be improved at all but the comparison to slavery is insane and terrible to me. Again slavery was very real and horrific and on no way even close to the same ballpark.

Autodesk fomo! Sep 26, 2019

Slavery from the past doesnt have to be compared to the present to justify the current state. The modern day slavery is enticing and restrictions on mobility with benefits is a big deal and its a wide scale issue.

Amazon shyua Sep 26, 2019

People want high pay and still complain about wlb. Lol.

Symantec NGge16 Sep 26, 2019

Yeah, I like my high TC so I know I have to work for it. I could always move to somewhere cheap and kick back and relax if I wanted to. But, FB is a mixed bag. Some teams/people have decent WLB, for others it's bad and because of the "impact" culture, it's really hard to improve things. Stuff keeps falling over but fixing that doesn't have the same impact as launching a new feature, so the technical debt continues to accumulate. As an engineer who takes pride in my work and quality, FB is not inspiring.