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Despite Elon’s results, is Elon a mean/ruthless manager? What is your WLB like, and is it worth the comp you’re getting? Do you find people who work for Elon companies aren’t motivated by comp, and are more motivated by the company mission? Do other execs and middle managers counteract his eccentricities? Or is everyone in lockstep with him? What do you think we should make of the lawsuit against Tesla for racism/discrimination against BIPOC employees?
Don't know if Elon is mean/ruthless, never interacted with him. WLB (45 hours) and comp (170k) are fine, not amazing but not bad either. People are very talented and motivated. There is a lot of diversity of thought and ideas. Not sure how it goes down with Elon but it seems there are sometimes efforts to manage him in cases where his approach is too inflexible. No idea about Tesla. I think the biggest misconception people have about SpaceX is that Elon is involved in every decision. We have literally thousands of engineers and everyone contributes to decision making.
Thanks for your perspective!
"WLB (45 hours) and comp (170k) are fine" not sure how to feel about this with ~40hrs/week and $400k comp
Your WLB has nothing whatsoever to do with Elon
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Completely unrelated, but my friend’s brother started working there pre-IPO and left for Rivian like a year ago. He ended up working with Elon on an occasional basis, and said that Elon was the dumbest person he’s ever met lol.
Story time. My gf's uncle tells this story over and over about Elon hiring his friend maybe ~10 years ago. The friend was some brilliant Harvard grad who was a specialist in improving manufacturing efficiency and worked at Nissan. Elon poached him to solve the 'Manufacturing Hell' era. He worked for a few years and got Tesla out of manufacturing hell and was praised by Elon. This is where it gets interesting and gets into the psyche/cult of Elon: Before a presentation to the board, Elon asked the efficiency guru to go in front of the board and verbally commit to some ridiculous manufacturing numbers / time tables / etc and the guy refused. He gave the presentation and stuck to his 'real' numbers. After the presentation, Elon invited him to a room, put his severance package on the desk and told him to sign and leave. The guy is ruthless, but all high achievers are and since no governing/regulatory body has the balls to stand up to billionaires and their army of lawyers it's never gonna change.
Elon can be ruthless. He has no problem gutting entire departments. This usually happens when management becomes bloated and ineffective. Elon hates inefficiency and bureaucracy. He likes iteration and drive for results. Let’s be honest. Twitter has a lot more potential. It’s clearly bloated with overpaid folks on east street. Elon is a master at sniffing that out. I expect Elon to gut twitter and fire half the company. If you’re an engineer who is more focused on being woke, working from home, academia, the you’ll hate it. On the other hand if you like to move fast, hate management BS, then you’ll be in heaven. Tesla has over 70k employees and it’s a manufacturing company which means a lot of high turnover lower paying jobs. Not surprising to hear of pockets of bad supervisors and assholes. SpaceX certainly doesn’t condone harassment. I have seen stupidity exhibited by new grads who act like they’re still in college. I suspect this is a larger cultural problem and not unique to SpaceX.
They wouldn't know, twitter employees might