I just watched The Social Dilemma on Netflix and I can barely sleep. What an eye opening and terrifying documentary, it really feels like all the world problems right now stem from social media algorithms. I'm interested to hear what others thought of the film. TC 325
Is it about how social media algorithms create silos. And how feeding the rage machine increases clicks and engagement?
Social media doesn't create silos any more than it is before. Silos are even easier to break on social media because it's easier to get access to many viewpoints
I have hear good arguments about how their suggestion algorithms make silos more deep. As in watch left stuff on YouTube and it will keep suggesting u more left stuff. Same applies for right wing media. Also the algorithm promotes stuff that has more engagement. And by definition more outrageous stuff has more engagement.
Oh dude/dudette That’s good TC for MSFT.. are you 65?
Umm, guys, are we the baddies?
Tristan Harris suggests so. 😉
Not directly. We write the code and a lot of us do the job because we actually enjoy it (as much as Blind would like to make us think otherwise...Blind is a really good example of the problem this documentary is talking about). The baddies are the people who come up with the projects and have the grand plan's for stuff really. Like, a good example of this is how a tech company might make some GPS software, then make a map's software, then make that map software into an app on all devices by default and are able to track users and get user data. It sounds crazy but it isn't. A lot of these companies plan shit years in advance and have much larger goals for the tools they build than just their purpose at face value. Alas, the people on the project probably don't even really know this. It's someone way up the chain who knows the ultimate goal though.
Cancelling Netflix because of their Pedo Cuties movie
What the what? Yuck.
I like how conveniently Netflix is not mentioned in the list of companies whose business model is to keep people engaged.
But Netflix isn't free. It's a product you pay for. When something is free then the users are the product.
The point was how this business model of engagement is affecting society. Not that, these services are free. I agree that's a huge part of it. Just because I pay for Netflix doesn't mean they are in santa's goodie list.
This documentary looked a lot like one I saw on Netflix about six years back. Same info same garbage saying engineers at FAANG come up with it lol. It’s product managers not engineers. Plus saying “they sell users to advertisers” no they don’t give away user data to advertisers. Advertisers just PPC or PPI.
They’re not making that argument at all. Watch it.
Lol way to miss the point
It is very troubling. FB (and YouTube, Instagram, etc) send people into ideological rabbit holes/information bubbles and otherwise manipulate their behavior through content recommendation and ad targeting. These recommender systems aren’t purposefully trying to create hate, they are trying to maximize engagement/watch time/ad revenue for profit, and unfortunately polarizing/extremist content and fake news are more engaging than reality for many users. We need regulation around content recommendation and manipulative ad targeting.
Several large titles in the gaming industry also hire professionals who advice them on elements that will be the most addictive.
^this
Time to delete social media
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What bothered you the most about it?
Essentially how FB business model is set up to basically lead to the distruction of democracy, the confusion of truth, and ultimately civil war.
People are willing paying for their DNA data to be stored. Do you think the common man cares about any of this? Even most tech folks barely care about the consequences of their digital footprint. FB is just one played in this big ecosystem.