A lot of folks chasing high TC think they have arrived once they have landed their FAANG or unicorn job. While the reality is they can get pipped any time and not just at Amazon if they are not performing at the high bar required at these companies or not fitting in with the culture or a variety of other reasons. The higher the TC, the lower the job security Agree or disagree? Add your thoughts in the comments in addition to the poll. #tech
Used to work at a cyclical industry Low TC, regular PIPs. I don't worry about PIP anymore, focus on impact and metrics for higher TC
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What does this mean??
Means you salty because faang prolly rejected you
Companies don't fire you because you are getting paid well. They fire you because you don't perform well. Some smaller companies or startups may do this because they don't have enough cash but this is not the case at FAANG.
True. But isn’t the performance bar higher at a higher TC company? So you are more likely to not meet that bar there than at a lower TC place?
No.
Oh wow great find Sherlock
Meaning you agree?
In general for ICs yes.
Here’s my tip to not get piped: don’t suck at your job
How to get a SHUNDO?
I feel like Tesla is somewhat on the same list as Amazon in terms of potential of getting PIP
You can perform well at Amazon and still get PIPed because there’s a quota and maybe someone did a bit better than you. At other FAANG’s, you’re more likely to get PIPed if you’re genuinely not performing well, just like any other job. Although I’ve heard Netflix sometimes may have a bad pip culture
Netflix doesn't pip, just straight up fire.
That’s brutal, is there at least any warning?
It’s true to an extent, but not as much as you may think. At most, a few % of all engineers at FB ever go on PIP. It’s a rare thing. But it’s still a high pressure job.
I think it is hilarious. These folks thinking they've got it made while making 300k a year but having 10k a month rent or mortgage all while being trapped on the west coast without skills that would let them freely live anywhere. Its a rat race if you are stuck geographically and have to spend 5-10k on a housing payment. Having valuable skills means you're in demand globally, not tethered onto one region in one country.
10k per month on housing with 300k income means 180k left. Less than 80k go to taxes, so that means we have at least ~100k in spending money every year. That's a lot better than making 100k in a lcol area because aside from housing, nothing else is really that different. Plus, a good portion of the 10k per month goes to equity, which you can recapture when you sell.
What skills are not transferable. After my stint at Amazon, all the non-tech industry companies are offering metaphorical BJs to get me to accept a role and bring that “Amazon mindset” over. Auto. Industrial. Finance. Medical. Retail. Even aerospace defense.
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Is this very Amazon specific? Because I feel it’s very Amazon specific. I don’t think folks at other FANGM companies worry a lot about their job security, regardless of TC. Amazon, there’s always that guillotine named PIP that looms over your neck.
Yeah, arguably the rest of them should fire/downlevel people for poor perf, but the various costs involved in getting rid of people understandably don't seem worth it. Seems that we just kinda keep poor performers around and put them somewhere where they can't do too much damage until they leave or sort themselves. Exception might be the people going back to IC after flaming out as M for a year.
Netflix fires as well…