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The man I love hates me because I’m Vietnamese
Elon really making people show up in the middle of a night for a "code review". He made people explain some REST API structure in the middle of the night and then to celebrate he posted a group photo on Twitter. This isn't normal, this isn't productive and it sends a bad message if Twitter succeeds. That if you work your employees to the bone the product will succeed. Imagine if other companies have people trying to follow Elon's example, having people work until the middle of the night just to appease thier leadership. Even Bezos has the mercy to say work life harmony should exist. Elon is a POS. Grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and now he's trying to be the face of hustle culture. What a twat. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-posts-pictures-leaving-twitter-code-review-130-am-2022-11
You know in other industries it’s very common to stay late to work when duty calls, right? My lawyer friends spent their first couple years doing 60h weeks and were happy doing so. We’re insanely lucky in the tech industry to rarely need to put in extra hours. I don’t envy the guys at Twitter right now, but it’s plain ignorant to pretend this will end affecting the rest of the industry.
Working 60 hours is better than the 90 bozo proposes. It's unrealistic to work so late so often. Especially when it's just for show pony posts on Twitter
50-60 hour weeks are common for me especially during planning. 70-80 hour weeks happened during release and SEV0 LSIs. I powered through because I owned the area and was accountable. Not because some douche threatened me.
lol - this will drive all of the lame, inflated, over confident swe out. He is doing a great job cleaning up the mess that prior leaders leached. $400/lunch is insane. And so is having 1000s of engineeers building empires.
I dont understand people like these. They are SWE themselves but want to sabotage the insustey they are part of
It is called reversion to mean. There are few swe who deserve the compensation. But most I have met from the FAANG world are egoistic with a huge chip on their shoulder and unable to reason anything logical. This whole Twitter things. Man Elon is the owner. He can do whatever he wants. You either work in his company or you leave. Your choice. If you have so much pain of his methods, why not do something of your own instead of bashing someone else. That is pure stupidity. What Elon is doing is optimizing the company. Which all leaders should be doing but don't. And most lazy but overpaid SWE don't like it because their days of rest and vest are gone.
> has to fail Lol. That’s up to the market to decide
Private company
Yes, cuz private companies don’t need revenue from the “market”
Prologue : Elon and managing team on their way to HQ before the “code review” with the hostages
Background of the pic (in case you are wondering) - Pakistani terrorists hijacked Indian Airline flight from Nepal and took it to Kandhar.
When resters and vesters from other companies get scared, you know it’s the real deal!
It’s not fear. It’s empathy for the engineers and contempt for the leadership. This may be an alien concept for a company that sues its customers and partners.
If you passionate about what you are building, you don’t mind working late hours! Nobody build a company working 9-5! They chose to stay at twitter and those who are saying they are all H1b workers is not true, I am on H1b and I know other ways to keep my visa valid! Stop hating on progress, someone on blind said Microsoft is for low IQ losers who just rest and vest
I don’t agree with Musks work methodology but we might of woken a sleeping social media giant with all the trash talk we’ve thrown his way. He’s likely going to create exactly what he set out to do but it’s not going to be anything WE want.
Exactly. Twitter benefits from all of this.
Twitter is a platform, it’s only as good as it’s users. And if the users aren’t happy, it won’t matter how good Twitter becomes.
People at startups work long hours, but that's usually because they believe in the mission and the stock options have potential upside. Here it just looks like people trapped for Visa reasons. That's really sad.
Totally agree. Despite I am working at Microsoft, considering to be work life balance and no over time. When I did the start up. I slept only 4hours a day. And only take small naps when sleepy. The mission and potential upside is the motivation. For the startup times, I volunteered to do long hours. Now it seemed mostly people are forced to do it by fear. (unless Elon promised that a huge bonus for all the people who remains in company) but the nature of him, I don't think so. Now maybe twitter only have 2000 people left. Elon has the ability to give each of them 1million. But he surely will not do while still asking people to work like crazy. That is basically using people.
That’s exactly right. None of them want to be there, up all night, faking a smile, but have to be there because they are dependent on their status which now a single man and his mood swings are in charge of.
I think it's just a way to scare people and then bad business is left with people who don't care much about the rest of the world and just somehow need money at any cost because of some conditions like loans, visa etc. That's what bad business needs. People really sell their freedoms and become kind of .... What kind of people don't want to spend time with family, friends enjoy like after 8 hours of work.
Ask this to people working in Asian companies .. they wont find anything unusual in that .. thats how things work there and thats why Asian companies are catching up and growing super fast .. S Korea .. Samsung LG Hyundai .. Well USA supposed to be better but thats what it takes to run a company to make it or trying to make it profitable. Not to defend Elon .. he is acting strange lately .. But someone has better idea ..
This is part of the work culture over there. People in Korea also consume excess alcohol to deal with stress. Work is means to an end.
The younger people in China are starting to push back on the 996 culture though. It has to provide sufficient upside to the employees or they figure out its BS.
Did all who showed up survive?
Only if they kissed his feet on the way out of the meeting.
Kissed his feet? I was told something about sucking something😅