Leaving compensation aside. Which one has more visibility, scope and influence? Careerwise which one is better?
Uber will pay more, but scope and influence will probably be better at Apple.
What bothers me is that ict5 has even a bit of overlap with senior level bands at other companies, but at the same time at the high end overlap with very high level positions too. it's crazy broad
Levels is never totally accurate. They often have bands side by side where a role from one company is leading a handful on engineers where as for the other company its being the head of an org leading 20-30 people. The recruiter should be able to give you a better idea about actual scope and influence.
That's fair. I will talk more with the e.m. on both sides. I am just thinking. If shit hits the fan again, I don't want to have people trying to give me staff level loops next time I interview.
Staff at Apple is hard to get
Staff is ict6? I thought they had no titles from 4 to 6. Just "senior"
Staff is ICT5. ICT4 is senior but very broad
This can’t be hard. Sr Staff at Uber has way more scope and visibility in industry
I would have thought that. Poll disagrees. How would you characterize Uber senior staffs scope?
Uber is at an interesting place in time. The business is low margin but needs to be run at scale. This means the problems are different and very complex than you d see at a traditional software place. The Sr Staffs are the Swiss knifes that are solving those problems and even when market is behaving odd - I am surprised that not many outside understand how smart these guys are. I have met some and then some more and quality is top notch. I am sure that you d not find the same quality at Apple or many other big places
Isn’t Uber trying to outsource all their shit to India? That’s what my buddies there say. Lots of India hiring. “Train this person i India who only knows buzz words”. Etc.