Current FB: Salary:148k Bonus: 10% Equity:60k (this year) TC:230k Level: E4 Google: Salary: 120k Bonus: 15% Equity: 100k, (400k over 4 years) TC: 242k Level: L3 Uber: Salary: 151k Bonus: 10% Equity: 9003 k shares (42.58 409a price, 48 per 70 bil valuation, 64 per 110 billion valuation) TC: (depends on stock, with 409a it’s 262k. And then with 110 billion valuation it’s 310k) Level: E4 I’m not including benefits in tc where fb and google are a bit better (401k matching, 3 free meals). I’m a bit worried about Uber running a deficit and not being profitable and many sure how much to value the stock. Any opinions? Can the stock get lower than 409a valuation? Yoe: 2.75 years
Why they are all so low? What is the position and yoe?
I thought they’re pretty good offers but maybe I was wrong. I’ve listed levels by each and added yoe
OK. This is just my opinion. Save Google for last, FB and Uber allow you to rise fast and get promotions. Once you gained about 10 yoe, then consider Google. Atm, Google is lowballing you hard.
I thought google gave 15 percent as minimum bonus. This offer is fake news
Oh my b. I just know the TC was 242k. Had the offer a while ago and it’s an open offer so I can go to it for a year after.
242k for L3? That's so much higher than us..
Stay at FB, and continue to look. Tcs for those two are pretty bad imo relative to where you are at. I would reject goog based on tc. And unless wlb is significantly better in goog then I would consider. Or if you are unhappy at fb then by all means take a chance at goog. Agreed with your Uber assessment. They are overhyped, overvalued and they are continually losing money. That tc could be a lot lower in the end.
Agree, only jump to higher positions or out of a sinking boat
That's top of the range L4 at Uber, most likely since you did good on the interview and Uber values FB people. Don't join Google at L3, a friend there told me they don't differentiate between new grad L3 and L3 with some experience. You can work hard and rise to L5 in 4-5 years, I guess. If you still like your FB team, I'd say stay for another year, get a promo and then look outside. Were these the only companies you interviewed for?
Thank you. I interviewed at snap and Airbnb but messed those up. Got tired of interviewing so I didn’t do more.
Okay I see a lot of potential to learn at Uber given it's still in growth phase, but I believe FB should be same if you're in a good team. I personally don't worry too much about stock, everything is speculation ATM. Lyft IPO might give some idea, we'll see how this year ends. Best of luck! 👍.
Stay at FB. The choice is clear. Blind has an obsession with Google for some reason. Don't downlevel -- you will hurt your tc in the long run.
You need Uber stock to be around $30 to make even on FB. Google is just lowballing. Do you want to buy Uber stock at $30? Softbank does.
Wow 240k L3 offer is amazing! You have everything there. With 20% time you can grow as fast as you want. I have a friend who got to L5 at FB in 2 years but can't get senior at msft. Different companies have different leveling policies. Only the money makes any difference. I've heard of directors at HBO leading 50 people getting L4 at Google but happily accepting because of the money.
20% is a joke nowadays I heard. Could someone from G confirm? Or is it product dependent?
It really depends on what you want to do, the work at all of these companies are very different. If you feel you still need solid skills, google and fb is much better than uber. If you want ownership of a problem, uber > fb > google. Diffs in TC doesn’t matter, go where you can learn and excel.
Can people explain why pick google? It seems a step back in my career by a downlevel and I can make as much money at fb by waiting a year for my refresher. (At this point the comp diff is small)
Stop being so short sighted you dingdong. You'll learn the most working for the goog, which will propel you later in your career.
If “Google” in options: Winner = “Google” Else: Winner = random.choice(options)