Which offer is better ADP for 90k and sign in bonus or Fidelity for 84k no bonus. Both companies have projects I see myself working on, although ADP is more intuitive cus I’m not very familiar with fintech but do not mind learning. But from reviews here Fidelity seems to have much better wlb and culture BUT legacy tech stack. ADP seems to have scary reviews on how the structure is very old school and some favoritism. But I feel like ADP is somewhat big name to start a career from. So wlb vs slightly higher base pay? I’m also a #newgrad so don’t know how to choose better on those. 🤔 New Jersey location.
$6k a year difference means other factors are more important than just salary. Sounds like you're leaning Fidelity and in this case I might, too. I'd take the WLB.
ADP isn’t bad for a first job. You will learn a lot, and at a large company, have plenty of resources. It just isn’t a place for a long term career. You will get in, learn a lot, then quickly realize you are underpaid, and their yearly bumps are very minimal.
Also, try to ask Fidelity to match the pay? Or would they give a sign on bonus to compete with ADP offer? I know ADP is pushing the sign on bonuses right now because they are having a hard time retaining employees, and hiring.
During initial phase Fidelity recruiter said compensation and the start date are not negotiable, lol. So I didn’t even try. I still feel very awkward to negotiate in general tho …
Fidelity super chill, leaving for Google tho
How long did you spend at Fidelity? Kudos on Google.
Exactly a year, entered as new grad since I had no intern experience and Fidelity was the best I could do. Extremely grateful for my time here, allowed me to get plenty of leetcode in during work.
Depending on the team you’re joining, yes there are parts of the org which is using older or legacy stack I guess. Believe it or not, a good amount of the tech side is using the newest things, from what you mentioned I think I know what BU you may have joined :). Wlb is awesome, ask your recruiter on the projects
You can tell that by location? About BU.. how is it there, do you know? Also I read one review that was saying how SE is basically the jack of all trades at Fidelity. You’ll be doing testing, talking to customers and developing based on the need, no separate kind of roles. Has this been you experience? I’m not sure, maybe it’s even normal depending on the team size…
Business units aren’t region specific. If you say they are using older tech, I may have a pretty good idea of the BU you maybe going into. Some are a little behind the curve and others are using the latest and greatest. I think individual team experience may vary. Smaller teams more of that stuff falls on you, some of the bigger teams you have your deducted PO/scrum roles. Really depends but great learning experience
Lots of politics at ADP. Not enough tech challenges .
That is so sad to hear, cus from all of the recruiting events and presentations it looks like they have so meany products to work on. Like the soft that checks if companies are hiring diverse crowd enough and such.
I do not want to discourage you. I just feel that for someone who is expecting a certain progressive trajectory of learning and challenges, ADP might not be the best place. That being said 80 P is a very secure organization. I have yet to hear anyone being fired unless they actually fall out of the race with a leader or there is an actual restructuring. Hope that helps
ADP experience is heavily dependent on the BU you end up at and the leader you work under. Yes ADP isn't a place for long term career but also it's a place with great WLB and there's definitely some teams which are working on fun products. Also ADP has enhanced salary raises for the first 3 years of the college program so there's definitely decent raises. Finally either in ADP or Fidelity there's limited technical problems that would challenge you heavily so use either company as a stepping stone and move out after a couple of years. The advantage with legacy companies is that you'll learn things at a decent pace and it'll give you a good buffer to understand how enterprise work is different from academic work. PS: I heard that Amazon is hiring new grads heavily and there bar is pretty low for new grads so try giving it a shot. They start at 120k base plus stock and bonus structure and a great stepping stone if you are interested in new age internet companies.
The hardest thing you'll do at Fidelity are leetcode mediums
@OP where did you join finally?
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I would think Fidelity gives you better growth given the FinTech boom recently but it’s not clear what projects you would work on