Some companies pay more (or less) than others Some companies demand a higher (or lower) bar Some companies have a better (or worse) wlb BUT which company will treat you the fairest in performance reviews? (E.g. least politics, most systematic, best compensation for big achievements, etc) Please comment with why you think the system works the best @Facebook @Google @Microsoft @Oracle @uber @Airbnb
None of the above
New Relic
It depends how much privacy the IC exploits. The more, the more you get promoted!
Apple?
I’ve heard a lot of googlers complain about the promo process, is it actually good?
It’s got the same limitations as anywhere else: quotas, politics etc with more hoops, committees etc, around to throw a wrench in the process. Originally, there weren’t quotas (at least I understand) and they were solely based on merit. This made underleveling less of a problem.
I heard that too... We dont have those issues yet - no quotas, no politics (because there are no quotas) and no committees. The last part is probably the biggest difference in the process between the two companies and makes the manager more directly accountable for people's growth
I wish this poll would discard Google votes from people who don't work here. Our system is just as flawed as any other. In fact, recent changes have it trending towards the average. L5 and under and it's up to your local stack rank.
If a company is successful, it means their promo process was mostly fair. Without a fair promo process, you could not achieve success. By that logic, I say that Google's was good until recently (their CEO promotion was not fair, IMHO). FB has been successful so far, but I could see Facebook may have some stumble blocks to overcome in long term. IMO, FB has so many people at higher levels who are not that good, they are there because of lot of hard work sacrificing WLB but in reality they don't have skills needed for that role. Most of them would fail an interview at the same level at Google. We will know in long term how is that going to affect the company as a whole. Microsoft is the company of politics. Their success in the past 20 years were held of because of that. I believe it has changed recently after their new CEO. But not sure. At Amazon promotion is purely at manager discretion. However a manager has to show success of his or her team to the top management. As long as they can show success, they can promote whomsoever they want. It is more of a capitalist mechanism at play in Amazon. So a manager has to reward their team who are bringing them success. There is room for politics but it would eventually balance out. Netflix has a very opaque process. No title change. No promotion. All we have is single title. So no one know what is going under the hood. IMO, this is not good as engineers have no way to compare themselves against to see at what level they are operating at. Hence room for lot more politics.
Thanks!
Is Facebook fair?
I personally think it is, but I haven't worked in in most of the companies listed above so hard to benchmark. In comparison to the places I did work in - fb is the best at rewarding great work
I have to say the company sucks in a lot of aspects, but I do have to say it’s PSC is pretty fair on average.