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Tldr: should I get some echo dots to talk to my Ring security system or stick with the Google home ones I have now? probably a pointless question, but I bought a Ring security system and I'm pretty happy with how well it works and easy it was to setup. It even integrates with third party devices pretty well. Anyways, being an Amazon product it wants me to use Alexa like crazy. I have a Google pixel phone and a couple Google homes as I find talking to technology, aside from voice search, kind of silly and of little value. I have intentionally diversified my tech so not all of my data is in one place, but I'm probably deepest into Google. #amazon #google
There are many worse companies, wake up. Credit card for example actually sell your data. Legally. without hiding that. You can protect your data at google and Amazon. You can choose to not have ads targeted. You can opt out tracking. That's not true for many companies.
Don't be so defensive. You only work there it's not like you're friends with the founders lol. I'm aware of everything you mentioned and actively use many of these options. So are you saying that neither of these companies passively listens to conversations and stores that data? I was asking the original question a little flippantly. I'm just curious how this data that is collected from Ring, Google home, and Alexa are stored and leveraged. I doubt it really matters which I use as I'm guessing both have similar tactics.
passively listening is illegal. Besides the fact that the storage of that much data would be crazy and not valuable. Companies aren't just trying to store your conversations for fun.
I have been at Alexa in the prod pipeline and I am a scientist with a PhD in that domain. Customer data storage before ’wake word utterance’ is not done. Every device has to listen for the wake word; there is no other to way know that customer is calling for Alexa’s attention.
Alexa may not buy third party apps within Alexa can if they really wanted too.
I believe you I guess. But it's awful suspicious that things I talk about come up in ads later or become suggested search results. Although I think that's through my Google phone honestly. Frankly, none of this truly bothers me that much. I assume anything I do in chrome (or any Google, Amazon, etc. apps) is tracked and recorded in some manner. Although I use the Do Not Track setting and use disconnect to help with trackers and what not. If I really want to be private I go on a VPN and Tor and duck duck go. I'm sure that doesn't keep me 100% anonymous but I'll use it for mundane things I don't tied to my Google account or don't want ads or suggestions for. I don't do anything illegal so I don't have the need to go into deeper protection than that. Regardless, I do try to be mindful of zero party data and the right to privacy even if I don't require it because there are many who do. And I would like to control that data and how it's accessed and utilized to build a data profile about me. Perhaps there are just too many articles about Cambridge Analytica and other data breaches and brokerages that I have lost any sense of trust in these entities and I know just enough about how it works to be paranoid. But nothing has shown me that there companies truly have my best interest at heart and are trying to make it easy to manage my data and online identity. GDPR was a good first step at least.
Google for sure, because amazon staff are clear the company is working for the bottom line. Google staff think they're a force for moral good, and that is a very dangerous self agrandizement.
Yep. Trying to do good is bad. Definitely don't try and do good.
Trying to do good is good. Thinking you're a force for good when you're a force for your shareholders, is really really bad. That's almost the exact scenario that the quote "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" us about.
Amazon wants to sell shit to you. Google wants to sell you. You decide !!
Go home assistant. The Ring API us actually really good!
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