Why is Tesla so shady with marketing?
“Estimated 5-year gas savings” -$6,000 Really?
It is to justify the price of their crappy overpriced cars whose batteries are going to die after 5 years (and that represent more than 50% of the price of the car). In the end the car itself is not a good business case for a smart buyer.
I bought my tesla 10 years ago and it drives just fine lol. Tesla is a shit company for a lot of reasons but their battery tech is solid. Take your EV fear mongering elsewhere
A few of my friends (and lots of others, check online) had issues with their batteries in the 5 year range with their cars. No fear mongering here, just the reality that the tech is not entirely ready. Go kiss a tree my friend, it will make you feel better.
What they don’t mention : 1) Model 3 and Y pollutes much more than ICE ever will. Thanks to electricity to charge car, metals in battery packs , paint and plastics etc 2) Insurance for Teslas is running like $3k per year. Compared to $1.5k for regular cars. 3) its actual mileage will drop to 50% if god forbid it’s colder than 0. So you can only run it for like 100 miles before stopping at a charger station and finding they are all broken and don’t work 😂😂
1. Ah yes, my 99% renewable energy in the PNW is horrible. I should use gasoline instead. I should switch to an ICE car which does not use paint and plastics. 2. My insurance is 1400/yr with excellent coverage in Seattle, one of the most expensive places to insure a car 3. You overstated this as well. It does drop significantly, I think about 40% in most extreme conditions, so goes from 330miles range to 200miles. ICE lose efficiency in extremely cold weather as well. This isn’t a huge deal and literally never see a supercharger station where everything was “broken and unusable”. All that said, Tesla is shit for many reasons, but your post reeks of just total misinformation and actual stupidity surrounding EV tech. You’re really latching onto all that decades-old big oil misinformation about EV technology
Yeah I spread Misinformation and you must be the expert and know it all for driving a Tesla right? 1. PNW is not the whole world. Lmao. Hardly 5 million people live in that area. 70% of the worlds electricity still comes from coal. 2. Again that’s YOUR insurance, not everyone else. We don’t know your coverages etc. average cost of Tesla Insurance is north of $3k. Unlike you, I don’t speak works out of my a** lol https://www.marketwatch.com/guides/insurance-services/tesla-insurance/#:~:text=The%20average%20cost%20to%20insure,higher%20than%20the%20national%20average. 3. Yeah. It’s literally 50% on top of already fake estimates that they have for model 3 as no Tesla driver charges their car more than 80-90% 80% of 260 = 200 approx which drops to like 100 give or take 20 in cold weather. EV are literally a fraud on us perpetrated by the Chinese. As They have the metals and slave labor to exploit them out of Earth. They get the cash, while we get the fraud battery bomb which can explode any time under you. Thats why I switched my Tesla to Corolla . Toyota Corolla >>> Model 3 and Y
The economics work a lot more in your favor if you install solar at home and/or have free charging at work. With the incentives on residential solar, if you can afford to, you can save $6,000 over 5 years, depending on how much you drive.
Yeah, people say all companies pull stunts like this, but Elon Musk is a particularly big scumbag.
Because it's run by a shady guy. That's it.
I don’t get your point. Is $6,000 wrong or something? There’s also a purchase price vs. savings view that’ll show you out of pocket.
They're saying that it's fraudulent to show that. In CA, most likely, you're not gonna save 6k in gas by using an EV. Other companies that sell EVs don't do it either.
Hm, maybe it’s just my situation, but I was actually surprised at how accurate it was / conservative it was. I’ll try to not beat a dead horse, but to provide my own real-world experience: before working at Tesla, I drove a comparable luxury car (think Audi, BMW, etc.), which had a 22 combined mpg. I used to fill up its 18-gallon tank (actually 20, but using 10% buffer to be realistic) 3 times a month, which at $6/gallon for Premium gas at a Chevron/Shell is about $300-$325/month ($6 x 18 gallons x 3 times), so x12 would be between $3,600-$3,900/year. I supercharge 96-98% of the time in the Bay Area and my total cost for the last 12 months was $1,778, so a saving of around $2k/year x 5 years would actually be $10,000 in savings. I’m sure this number is lower if you drove a more mpg-friendly car though. Lastly, it totally makes sense that other EV manufacturers, especially those that primarily sell gas cars, since there’s a risk that they’ll drive customers away from a cash cow to a capital-intensive model. The point of putting potential savings in front of customers is to illustrate total cost of EV ownership - which a lot of first time customers are not aware of. However, I can see how this could SEEM disingenuous, but wanted to try and dispel that argument that it’s wildly off. It MAY be off, but for me specifically, it was actually understating and not overstating my actual savings.
They would say 100 lies for $1 these days (not only Tesla)
Website very clearly tells you the cost before you buy, without marketing lines. Better than "MSRP" and then heading to the dealership for your preorder and they added 20 lines.
Someone shd tell then about pge
Every company will attempt this as long as they can get away with it. Tesla is more brazen and shameless about this. People who fall for this potential savings crap are his die-hard simps or TSLA pumpers.
Woke crowd will continue buying Tesla because they are all Elon’s fanboys and fangirls.
I thought the woke started to dislike hime after all that twitter fiasco and reinstating Trump's account.