Imagine, a paper written by your company's employees revolutionizes the industry. One of the startups inspired by that creates chatgpt and you're so far up your ass that you don't even realize the importance of it. Then you suddenly wake up and call yourself "AI first company" and issue "code red" to chase it. Yeah I'm aware that under his leadership the revenues grew 3-4x and Google cut down on research projects (the fact that makes him a darling for the shareholders). But he did that by stifling innovation and sacrificing long term future of Google I know a VP at Google and in his words, "Sundar has his strengths but he's extremely risk averse" How is that nobody has called him out yet? There's a whole different approach to running an innovation engine vs running a regular business. Since Larry and Sergey left, Google has become more like an MBA ran shop
Revenue grew 60B—> 280B. Growth rates outperformed industry-leaders (eg msft) every single year. He didn’t do so bad LLMs crush search margins. Google has prioritized AI development for a while under sundar. They built LLMs roughly as good as GPT, but held back launching them to optimize operational costs involved. I think the race is far from over. At its core, LLMs are a cloud play— its just the beginning & Google has a fair shot. However search margins are now destroyed, until a new Monetization model (not ads) is built
Yeah I'm aware but that's what I'm talking about in my last paragraph. For any other company, I know the ethos of "exist for shareholders" but for Google it seems like a bit of a death
Too early to call death imo
Yeah it’s a bit of a joke. Google used to be a much better run company.
How do u pronounce your company’s name lol
SIG Rhymes with big. Otherwise I still don’t know.
No company stays "Googley" for 25 years. Sundar is helping the company transition. There's not a ton he could have done really. And it's just gonna get worse. If you are upset, go to Meta, Netflix, Roblox, HFT, or start your own thing
I am at Meta lol
No company has been overrun by MBAs and operations the way Apple has. It’s a pure efficiency company with a near stagnant innovation pipeline
Yeah Mark gets so much shit for this everywhere. But at least he's trying something new And 1B a month is not spent entirely on metaverse but whatever
I don’t get why people wreck him for it. We all benefit if mark succeeds with metaverse. And if he fails we lose nothing Mark has repeatedly bungled the narrative game.
You build an army of leetcode douche and koolaid culture around that, that’s what you get
It's easy to criticize looking backwards, and mostly kind of pointless. It's not as simple as a layman might make it sound. That search revenue is sweet and creating competition to an internal product is always difficult. Google had many attempts at innovation but many of the products got canned due to lack of adoption. We still don't know the extent of how this tech will get adopted or not.
Because he claims he's beautiful and people are blind
Google hired away the worst engineers from my previous employer, saving us the effort to PIP them. Not surprised Google is not doing well.
Employees are equally responsible for the screw up
Good point. There are some hard-core E7+ coasters at google too. But from what I've heard, it's almost impossible to get the leadership's backing for anything that's even slightly risky.
Employees will do what the slt asks them too. I cant just keep innovation if the slt wants me to do my regular work