Have a P4 offer from Zillow Tc:350k (185+75+90rsu) Currently at MS, on L62. Was awarded ZeroRewards this year and manager asked to look into other teams within org. Current tc: 175k Pros: Level bump Salary doubled Will get out of ZR and start fresh. Remote - can move to LCOL with same salary. Cons: On H1B, Z not as stable as MS in the current market. Prestige? #microsoft #zillow Update: decided to sign it
you'll be fine in Zillow. I don't think there's much prestige associated with msft L62 at 175k TC
2x the TC and you still thinking?
Unfortunately, that’s the weight of 60-day grace period for H1B
Take risks man (Unless you really high critical financial responsibilities to justify being in US). Microsoft is not that great.
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I am same Yoe. Again l62. With almost same TC. I am amazed that Zillow pays that much. I should interview
Z is not as unstable as you might think and MSFT is not as stable as you might think. Any company which hired a lot is a suspect for downsizing in next 12 months. Also, Z typically doesn't layoff engineers and 75k is joining bonus and should be amortized for across 4 yrs.
Is 75k joining or performance bonus?
Joining
Yeah you should really count it over 4 years. Is there any performance bonus? Solid offer though
I am on H1B, P4 , still working at Zillow.. you will be fine..
Your boss gave you the worst rating possible and told you to look for jobs. Boss is trying to make sure you vwyf on your own so there is no firing record on your msft profile and you want to stay since ms is "stable". Layoff may not imoacr you but goof chance you are terminated due to performance reasons. Also satyas msft ain't no safe haven. We had at least 2 rounds of layoffs since may and 1 hit engineering..small rifs but rif nonetheless. This is after we still met Wallstreet expectations and I am sure you know what Amy and satya are capable of doing if we don't.
Dude what's wrong with your keyboard
Can you share details for ZeroReward? Performance or manager conflict?
According to managers words - I am at 100% of my expectations, there are a couple of people who did better than 100%, and Hr recalibrated me to ZR. I personally dont think I had perf issues (at least was never reflected in my 1:1s), it’s prolly MS way of silent layoffs.
Solid offer for P4. Max would probably be like 200k base 100k rsu 👍
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Smart... There you have it, another reason why you should go to Zillow