Tech IndustrySep 30, 2017
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Zillow offer

Got a Zillow offer for Principal at 280k TC. 60k better than what I make now but the hiring manager has much less experience than me (2 vs 10 years) and also seemed very inexperienced when I talked with him. Worth going for 60k bump? Also worried about Zillow on resume vs Microsoft for the next move.

Microsoft Randy6 Sep 30, 2017

60k's a 30% raise bud. Yeah there's risk due to a less experienced hiring manager, but two years is nothing to scoff at.

Microsoft 🐧.🐍.πŸ™ OP Sep 30, 2017

Yeah he appeared to be no better than few 60s and 61s I have mentored, not happy about having someone like that above me.

VMware trollbully Sep 30, 2017

280 - 60 = 220. 60 / 220 = 27 percent. One should not leave for less than 20 percent. Given the manager is useless you will be scapegoated immediately after he fucks up. That 7 percentage point margin goes away fast after you hate your job. Keep looking.

Microsoft Jeifmfk Sep 30, 2017

No..

Samsung LVRr10 Sep 30, 2017

Why not go, then get "lured" back to ms? Sometimes that's the only way to get serious bumps is to make those jumps. I have a friend who did that, ms -> amzn-> ms with about 100k+ on two years.

Microsoft 🐧.🐍.πŸ™ OP Sep 30, 2017

Right thats one angle I am considering.

Microsoft *Nutella* Sep 30, 2017

MS may not be very interested to match offer from Zillow. Think about that also. I heard someone got a very high offer from Twitter and Amazon/MS said they don't match Twitter offer.

Microsoft Loading... Sep 30, 2017

Yeah. It is sad to have to do that to get a real salary adjustment, but that’s how is done. I know a jerk did exactly that: MS -> Zillow -> MS. He is at least level 68 now.

Amazon FuckTisSht Oct 1, 2017

Current level at MS

EMC gpal72 Oct 1, 2017

Experienced managers don't always equate to good managers, just as inexperienced managers don't always equate to a bad manager. If you take the offer make him look good and he should take care of you if he is an ethical manager .

Zillow Group bring Oct 1, 2017

Second gpal72, inexperienced doesn't equate bad, There are a lot of awesome young managers in Z, Also principal is hard in Z, you must be awesome to get that. Also Why are you worried abt Z on the resume? 1)You get to work on the coolest technologies on normal projects 2)You can get to work on what you want for 3 weeks of the year.(Hackweeks) 3. public company hence stocks are less dangerous 4. Almost every major company has called since im here. You can mention the top 10 and each and every one called and I'm not even your level and dint even apply to one of them. 5. See best places to work in glassdoor and Z is in top 10 For last 2 years

Oracle Boston00 Oct 2, 2017

+ great product

Oracle eng. Oct 3, 2017

What's your level at Microsoft?

Uber Do$$ Oct 12, 2018

Tc is like senior not principal