Received an offer as ICT4 for apple hardware team. 10YOE Base:180K, Stock: 150K, Bonus: 25K. I feel it is low but was told it is final, should I take it, or is there any room I can still negotiate? Or can I negotiate to be ICT5? Normally how much time do I have to make a decision so I can interview with others? BTW how long does it take from verbal to written? #apple edit: my current TC is about 200K but in Irvine, CA. The new position is in the bay area Will have update if I get to improve the numbers though.
It is low ball. But I’d say only for RSUs. If they give you this range I doubt they’ll budge IC5
BTW, what is the refresh stock per year for average performer?
100k I guess.
What’s group you are joining?
It’s a good offer for ICT4 @Apple HW
Low on stock. Base is decent
Congrats! The RSU is low balled for 10 year exp. And bay area living cost is higher
As mentioned base is about right but RSU could be higher. Negotiating ICT5 is extremely unlikely even for stronger hires with more YOE. Pushing back is based on your BATNA. You have to be prepared to walk away because Apple has no issues with rescinding offers. Without competing offers the recruiter is considering your socal TC and current company to come up with your numbers.
The recruiter told me they would not match competing offers like G or F. is this true?
Depends how bad they want or need you. Given the offer I'm assuming either your interview performance was weaker or your domain is not as hard to fill. If they really want you you can even negotiate with no competing offers. The much bigger question is if you actually want to live in the BA. I've lived in BA, LA, San Diego and can tell you that it's a radical change.
Why go to Apple for low TC and bad WLB. I would apply at Non FANG company and get more. Even Intel will pay more.
Looking for more career achievements in consumer hardware. bad WLB is fine as long as the pay is enough to take care of the family. But the question is the COL in the bay, especially this year..
Intel pays more :) kidding
Congrats! Definitely low ball offer on RSUs. Got comparable offers from cadence/AMD, so this is laughable from apple.
Ask for more stock and sign on. My initial offer last year was 175k base, 75k sign-on and 170k stock without negotiation for ICt4. You should be able to do better with negotiation.
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Current TC? If you’re considering taking it then it must be higher than what you’re currently making and your chance of ICT5 is low. I’d definitely ask for another $100-200k stock but have competing offers