My role feels like it has reached a breaking point. Our systems are so poorly designed and laden with tech debt that it is almost impossible to make substantial changes without breaking something important. Management is too busy breathing down engineers' necks to Deliver Results that there is absolutely 0 time to Insist on the Highest Standards or demonstrate Operational Excellence with tests or metrics, let alone a dashboard or even log lines. As a result, my Customer Obsessed team has started averaging about one significant customer-impacting event every single week. Writing the post-mortems for those events now occupies all my manager's time. It's gotten so bad that my manager has roped in multiple engineers to help with writing these documents, yet somehow we're still supposed to be on top of our regular sprint tasks. Oncall has just become a game of deliriously placating the angry mob of customers banging at our door, wondering why our system isn't working as-advertised throughout the day and being woken up for unactionable tickets throughout the night. I personally wouldn't dare touch any immature AWS service with a 10 foot pole, let alone bet the farm on it like some fools have. Every task is now being treated with such urgency it is exhausting. I have no time during the day to call my healthcare provider to schedule an appointment because work is non-stop from 9 - 7, even though I have a chronic illness that is being aggravated by the stress. The wild part is I log off earlier than most of my coworkers. My life at this company feels like a waking nightmare every weekday. Amazon is turning me into a callous, reclusive, sick person and yet I feel too ensnared in its grip to escape. I've been here a year and feel compelled to hang on while the financial incentives for me to stay evaporate before LC and GTFO. Any Amazonians or others with advice on how to be better at setting boundaries at difficult workplaces are welcome. tc 140k 1 yoe
Is it only usa or in india aswell The bad work culture and wlb
India tends to be worse since it's easier/cheaper to hire.
Vote with your feet.
Op, do you at least enjoy your TC? it seems to me that TC is the only factor that newbies are falling for when deciding to join aws
yeah i do concede that the TC is the best part about working for this company. i was very financially insecure growing up and dead broke in college, so i was definitely lured by the tc. in retrospect i would have been happy to take a 50k paycut for better wlb
How much are L6 pms getting though these days without stock appreciation? And I am referring to non technical PM roles
Y'all need to unionize
I want Amazon engineering quality to go up not down.
Hang in there. Try to get out. That's the only way to improve your life, even if it comes at the expense of TC.
trying š¤š» hopefully i can figure out how to cope in the mean time
Still joining AWS seems to be a cool idea. The world outside Amazon regards your LP super cool and the engineers rockstars. So, you could get job in any other company fairly easily by selling your aws stories. š
Why? I could go either way on the LP's, but Amazon engineers are mostly clueless college grads trying to build massive systems. That's one of the main reasons Amazon is so fucked up. I mean I've been there, some of the shit I built as an L4 was uh... Not good.
thatās what i hope is the case when i leave
If you don't want to fix these issues and get a promo you should just switch teams. It's supposed to be easy to do that internally right? What's stopping you?
iāve always heard this but thereās 2 issues. 1 sunk cost really sets in after a year learning a teamās system 2 iām in herndon so iāve got pretty limited opportunities for switching 3 wfh means iāve been pretty siloed so itās hard to tell if the grass is really greener 4 my manager days heās working on promo for me so i feel like itās worth it hanging on another few months
yāknow youāre right though. i think itās worth reconsidering š¤
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