Is it worth the hype? What do business designers do?
Very fulfilling work and projects. The only reason to join is if you are being recruited for a specific project/product that you find interesting. Friend’s TC is terrible in SF - the same if not lower than an ad agency.
Projects wouldn’t last long enough for you to leave specifically for one. Most projects at Ideo range between 6 and 12 weeks.
is where all the brilliant trust fund babies work
Not sure I know too many trust fund babies at Ideo.
I think business designers are still figuring out their role at Ideo. They are usually someone with an MBA or entrepreneur experience. But there really is no place like Ideo. The people and work is amazing. As others have mentioned the pays is crap (I left as a senior designer and make more than senior directors now) and you don’t ship as much work as you would being in-house some where. That’s more so the case with digital products and services because they are extremely mailable once the sausage making happens on the client side. But hardware and traditional industrial design work tends to land more often than not. Tbh I’d go back to the place in heart beat if I could get the same TC. Again, way more fulfilling work, constantly learning something new, tons of cool experiences (I’ve been all of the world because of Ideo) and everyone wants to help each other so none of that office politic BS.
What is the TC like for a senior business designer?
90 - 110k
Do people live in tents on that salary?!
^ All true
So if I want to learn design thinking, innovation for fun or apply at my work. How do I get training Without breaking bank
IDEO comp= You are paid nothing, while Partners build their 2nd 3rd 4th home in exotic place, and play politics on you
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I hear the work is meaningful but TC is shit
I’ve heard similar, there’s also a lack of shipping