got an offer as customer engineer, recruiter is low balling the offer. is it good to join with 2023 rumors. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/google-brass-set-2023-as-deadline-to-beat-amazon-microsoft-in-cloud
Name one of Google's "other bets" as they call it, that's been successful. They're an advertising firm. A very techy advertising firm that everyone wants to join, but advertising none the less.
How much of a lowball? What are they offering you?
What’s the “Low ball”? I just accepted an offer as an L6. Having a goal and TK coming on board I think is a good thing. And if not they doubled my TC, having google on my resume isn’t a bad thing and who knows where the industry will be in 3 years. Leaving a toxic environment outweighed the possibility of some future negative event. 20 years of doing this maybe my perspective is different than others.
What was your offer
Approx 135 base with 42% bonus with GSU and sign on.
How many RSU and in a major metro or low cost area? I took an L6, 160k base and $220k rsu on a monthly vest over 4 years. I’m in a low cost area vs something like the bay or NYC
need to provide a better breakdown than that. how much gsu and sign on? yoe and location?
Recruiter said she will share RSU And signon once I am ready. 15 YOE on consulting with current TC 180 on a metro area. Recruiter says google cannot pay my current base, so low balled to 135 with 42% bonus. Bonus will be paid quarterly. Thinking between brand and pay cut
I’d push to 150-160 base and $215k+ in RSUs at least. If it’s an L5 position that may be as high as you can go. It’s important to understand where they’re leveling you. YOE doesn’t necessarily matter at google, it’s all about the interview performance. My TC translates to about $450k if I use a few different COL adjustment sites to compare to SF. I also got a sign on of just under $30k but don’t count it as it’s a 1 time deal to makeup a bonus I’m walking away from vs delaying my start date.
Recruiter is lying about base. L6 could easily reach 180k+ base
Not a bad gig if you aren’t married to Google. Get the name on your resume and get out once your RSUs vest. Don’t count on making quota. Your third choice and are not likely to make a big dent in the enterprise relative to the other two.
Thanks guys. Will try to negotiate. Hope the 2023 strategy works for GCP, hope doesn’t not put the customer in limbo
You can bet that Amazon and Microsoft sellers have this article in their back pocket for any compete situations.
They don't even need to. What exactly is GCP's go to market play. Azure is the player I already have. Just another product part of the suite. AWS is the depth and breadth mature offering. Customer first attitude. Gcp is the service who's focus is anthos/k8s with a lack of enterprise offerings. Who is good in ml & data analytics? But doesn't work with terradata or other services I already use?
What exactly does a customer engineer do?
My understanding is it’s a combination of pre sales and technical onboarding. If you are networking you hep new customer design VPC. If you are data management you help lift and shift databases and migrate.
GCP is going to be dead like several other google products. don’t join
That's ironic coming from oracle. Tom K going to Crack the whip. You should know
I’m just an oracle employee, what I say is not from oracle