Been looking at a few other companies recently but it's a fucking monoculture of cheap picnic table "desks" and loud open spaces that I fucking hate. I hear Microsoft still has some private offices. Are irrelevant old school tech companies the only place to go work in peace? Any other suggestion? At this point I would literally take a 50% pay cut just to spend my days in a private office. They can use the savings towards real estate.
Start your own company or join a startup but the overwhelming data says open offices are more effective and not iust cheaper so doubt there will be a change in trend. My personal preference is a shared office with 2 to 4 people but also hard to come by.
Got a link to that data? Peopleware says otherwise.
I've seen data saying the opposite as well
one could argue that MSFT is more relevant than fb IMHO
In what way? Buying LinkedIn?
Facebook is a media/advertising company whose tech is all about driving that Microsoft is a generic tech company who has various tech that being driven for sale. Facebook can only pay more due to their ad income. But when that dries up, they won't have anything else to make money on. Microsofts income comes from people who can not (or don't want to) create their own tech to run their business (whatever that is). There will always be people like this. The question is of quanity.
Don't join msft for an office they are ripping out all the walls in the buildings.
not all, in fact no matter how board or miserable my job gets, I will probably never leave it because of this single perk of having a private office
And souls
You probably want to come to Apple then :) Usually senior engineers have their own offices. Non-senior engineers might have to share one office. But it is only share by two so it is not that bad.
Depends on the team/org, I see lots of open floors in Sunnyvale.
True.
Same boat.
There are some offices left? Tell me where so that we can tear those walls down!
Same. The open concept is flawed
I hate open offices. I actually think cubicle farms work best.
Worked in MSFT cubicles before and fucking hated it.
Yeh find it too much of a "corporate" vibe
clusterfuck I can not focus people moving around smell and noise all the fucking time
Stack overflow has offices. Though when I interviewed there they were total dicks to me, so it was a hard pass.
Curious, how exactly were they being dicks?
A couple of events stand out in my memory. Belittling my experiences when attempting to suggest it would align with a question they were asking was the biggest. No other interviewer has done that before.