The Information reports: Since Dara Khosrowshahi became CEO of Uber in 2017, he has been steadily pushing his engineering team to move jobs to India as a way of saving money. Despite some resistance from his top technology executive, Khosrowshahi made progress: about 15% of Uber’s engineering team, or about 600 people, is now in India. That’s up from 80 engineers in 2017. Now Khosrowshahi, looking to control costs amid the Covid crisis, is taking steps to move a bigger portion of Uber’s engineering work to India. That has sparked an internal debate about the pros and cons of having so many of these jobs in India. It comes as similar conversations are occurring at other companies with lots of engineers in high-cost locations such as the San Francisco Bay Area, as businesses hit hard by the pandemic look to save money. In Uber’s case, Khosrowshahi’s efforts follow the sudden departure in May of Thuan Pham, Uber’s longtime chief technology officer, who had resisted Khosrowshahi’s efforts to rapidly move jobs to India as Uber’s engineering ranks grew. Pham had argued to Khosrowshahi that hiring more engineers too quickly in that country would require accepting lower-quality candidates, according to two people at Uber who spoke to him. Pham previously told the CEO that if he wanted to go in that direction, he would need to do it with a different CTO, these people said. His departure, which came as Uber was about to lay off engineers as part of a bigger wave of layoffs across the company, freed Khosrowshahi to take a more aggressive stance on the job shift. Khosrowshahi, a one time investment banker who later ran the travel giant Expedia, has taken Pham’s role himself temporarily while the company searches for a replacement. Around the time Pham left, Khosrowshahi asked the engineering team to move more than a third of the engineering work related to the hardware and software that powers the company’s apps—also known as data center infrastructure—to India by the end of the year, said a person with knowledge of the matter. He also told the team he wanted most of Uber’s IT—which oversees the apps and other tech used by its 20,000 or so employees—shifted to India. https://www.theinformation.com/articles/uber-ceo-wants-to-shift-more-engineering-jobs-to-india-sparking-internal-debate #uber #india #uberindia
Quality in India is probably weaker but sometimes that's ok. Maybe it's worth it if you save enough. I don't see anything wrong with it.
1. That is usually a very small % of people. 2. Too many schools create too many graduates without a lot of oversight. 3. People want to hire people they know irrespective of their skillset. 4. Micro management and internal politics are rampant. 5. This is the next level but managers take a cut through some third party firms to get you into the job. Irrespective of your skill. You can hire good candidates, but it takes time and relatively good offers.
1. There are many others who are into competitive programming. Hiring bar is usually higher in India for Microsoft, Amazon, and Google. 2. Not everyone gets into good companies. Large numbers do not impact quality; only the hiring bar decides it. 3. No. Hiring in big N is based on merit. 4. I have seen micromanaging and political managers in the US as well. 5. This is the first time I am hearing anything like it. Obv I can't trust everything on the internet.
H1 B is hard to get nowadays! With remote work, it does not matter much if you are at India or USA!
That’s absolutely right. More companies will follow the same path
Say goodbye to being the world's most overvalued jitney cab company, Uber. Nobody wants to pay $300k TC for a taxi dispatcher. ; )
Easiest way to hit diversity quotas - fire the white/Asians in the US and hire Indians in India.
The sort if money Uber pays in India, by COL index it is much more than what same level Uber engineer makes in the bay area. With all the H1B scare looming on my head, I am seriously considering moving back to India, I am happy Dara is making this option easy. Go Dara! Fuck USA immigration, fuck Trump.
I hope it would fail miserably. I like my high tc job in the US
And then they closed their Mumbai office!
Mumbai is damn expensive. If I were making that decision, I'd keep offices in Hyd and Pune.
It’s just capitalism (your own rule) . You are probably angry because the table has turned now in somebody else’s favour. As long as it was favoriting you , you were all gung ho about capitalism, free market and globalization. Now that it’s not favoring you, you want protectionist policies. We humans are hypocrites. No surprise. This is not different than what caucasians have waged a war against China. Since HUAWEI is market leader and Caucasian native companies are losing the game, they have come up with the narrative that Chinese products are low qualities, have spy chips etc. Caucasians were not yelling like this when few decades ago manufacturing and services jobs in ship building, textiles moved to west from east. Most of it was forceful because they were chopping hands of the weavers. This was just few decades ago. Obviously their history books will never teach them this.
Dara's plan won't work. Pham hit the nail on the head.
Yes, Pham's word echo yours. Ofc he is right!