To me it seems like there's a lot of people on blind that support the Chinese authority. If not, then at least the notion that the Hong Kong protesters should be made "quiet" and are somehow wrong for displaying any type of violence. To me it seems like a child torturing a small animal, and the animal is cornered.
I have many colleagues and friends who have shared their experiences re terrifying overreach of the PRC. If I were to post something in support of Hong Kong protesters in a WeChat group, it would quickly be censored (removed). But I’m lucky because I live in the US so that’s the extent of consequences (for now). For those who speak out while in mainland China, here is an example of what will happen: https://twitter.com/intypython/status/1200466904734785536?s=21 * I expect Chinese sympathizers to flag this post for removal...
A lot of HK residents support the authority as well. They are just not as loud as those protesters or they are too scared to show their support of the authority. Somehow Americans only want one voice and attack people who have a different opinion
Because Chinese don’t get to vote and anything they post will get filtered. That’s why everyone support the different voice. If China has free speech and government was legitimately elected, then Americans will take all opinions.
Thats why they just had those landslide election results. Who is this "lot of HK residents"? The 15-20% compared to the other 80%? The majority has spoken
I think a lot of people in the west underestimate the level of information control in China. People grow up with only one view of the world and that’s the view of the CCP. They literally believe HK protesters are terrorists. The indoctrination is to such a degree that they disregard any conflicting information even when they come to the west. I’ve met mainlanders who works outside of China who have access to google and all the information available deny that Tianmen massacre happened. I think we in the west can’t understand or rationalize that level of brain washing
It's just that you've been brainwashed differently.
It’s really sad that you have all the information available to you and you still can’t stop believing the lies of CCP. And you’re not the “enemy” of the west either. You’re a victim of the CCP as well.
The fact that you probably can't even read these comments in China should be enough to not trust the Chinese government. Information is kept from people in China for a reason. China wants to control what you see, hear, and believe. Fuck you Chinese government.
I'm a PRC citizen the problem is western people doesn’t have freedom either . Michael Parenti, in his book “The Assassination of Julius Caesar”, utterly destroyed the Western idealism in Democracy by pointing out the utter restrictive constructs the wealthy imposed on the masses to have their voices heard. Julius was assassinated due to his land reforms, debt forgiveness, and overall advocation of the masses. Their history was narrated by elites, and their system of government is only a reflection of their oligarchical powers portrayed as “freedom.” We seen it in the founding of the United States, where the slave-owning founding fathers did not allow anyone except land owning white men to vote, while capitalizing on populist rhetoric of freedom, liberty, and democracy.And yet still today, votes are being repressed, gerrymandered, and corrupted. Lobbyists are a legal venue to corrupt “elected” politicians while the masses suffer from horrendous debt, healthcare, income inequality, and education. Millions homeless and go hungry in the wealthiest nation in the world. To epitomize these contradictions, they want people to believe China is a failure for lifting 800 million from poverty in a span of a generation. As a Chinese person grew up in China I utterly don't understand that a country can care so much about ideology. to me "democracy" to the united states is like a religion. Every time I see people flame CCP because of they are communism not democratic, it remind me of medieval Crusaders, when those “Defenders of the faith” go and kill Muslims just because they don’t embrace the same god. Now after a thousand years people finally learn to tolerate diversity in religion, but “Defender of the freedom” now wants to attack China because they don’t embrace the same ideology as the west.
Right. It's all fun and games. People only care about TC and sex at the end of the day. The evil ones additionally care about power. Speaking as a possible PRC citizen. Lol.
The fact that you know any of this is because you're not in China and information isn't being kept from you. You seem to love China but yet I see you working for a Western company, living in a Western country, and probably won't go back to live in China.
Taiwan number one!
Taiwan is never going to be number one🤦🏻♂️
Taiwan is part of China. China there does not have to refer to PRC - it's just China. If Taiwan is not part of China, please change ROC to Republic of Taiwan
The brainwashing is strong with the CCP. As someone from the middle east I know my Govt is a pos. You won’t find any of us defending our dictators lol. The arguments I’m hearing here are ridiculous
Try supporting Black Lives Matter on blind or criticize Modi... nationalists are ironically all the same no matter which sets of rulers boots they lick.
Support will of people of HK, evil China, blah-blah-blah ... Then why doesn't US respect will of people in Crimea, where 95% supported joining Russia? Then why doesn't US respect will of the people in Donbass? Ukraine under US guidance massacred tens of thousands, comparable with a small scale genocide. Where is an outcry? Did China do anything comparable to HK people?
You are saying that like it isn't US propaganda. On the news I saw "Russia forcefully annexes Crimea." If what you are saying is true, our philosophy is that the residents should be able to determine their own fate. There are things the US govt lies to us all about. When we see the truth we call out bullshit
Well... Mainly because when Russia announces that they had a referendum and 95% came back as yes... It's beyond suspect. Nothing anywhere ever gets passed with 95% favourability! Humans aren't like that. Just like how it's hard to determine where actually happening in HK. The Chinese government is not exactly known for transparency. Funny talking to folks in China about tiannamen square. Those that just know the state version vs those that had an apartment on tiannamen square and ended up with bullet holes in their apartment.
HK is China. US citizens feel threatened by China. They instinctively understand that a couple of decades from now there can be only one superpower. Hence the passive aggressive behavior on this here forum, covert support for HK, etc.
Whether Hong Kong wants to be part of China should be up to Hong Kong citizens to decide.
Yeah that's a very Western idea that is selectively applied. Tell that to the US regarding Crimea. In reality, no. They won't decide that.