CompensationSep 11, 2019
PayPallarper7206

Accelerated vesting when laid off?

Just checking in to see how common it is that companies accelerate your vesting when you are laid off? Is this widespread? I'm sure there is a time component (like probably not 2 months after the last vest, but probably for sure 2 months before the next one).

Amazon Dr. Jones Sep 11, 2019

I’ve never even heard about this type of thing.

Walmart pingpongl4 Sep 11, 2019

Why would they want you to vest? They're laying you off to save money

PayPal larper7206 OP Sep 11, 2019

This definitely happens, I just wonder how common it is. I guess the answer is not very common. For companies on an annual vest schedule they would do this to not be dickish and lay people off right before they vest.

PayPal pypl49wez Sep 12, 2019

VP level

PayPal wknu08 Sep 13, 2019

It happened for BR. But guess it's very uncommon thing. Usually they give a 3 month pay when laying off. Might as well consider ur RSU's if it's vesting within those 3 months. Not sure, but that could be a possibility!

Google vkg38472 Sep 11, 2019

Maybe if you are an executive

Qualcomm lo_ol Sep 11, 2019

Accelerated vesting generally happens when a company is acquired or merge with another. In layoff the employees lose their RSUs but get some kind of severance.

PayPal larper7206 OP Sep 11, 2019

Thanks!

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IWDP33 Sep 11, 2019

They have to make you 100% vested in your retirement accounts (401k and pension) if they lay off more than 20% of the work force. This is the law under ERISA, it’s called a partial plan termination. They can’t change the vesting on a per person basis for these types of plans outside of this scenario. They can change it for plans that are considered non-qualified.

PayPal larper7206 OP Sep 11, 2019

Makes sense

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IWDP33 Sep 11, 2019

This is what I do for a living. You may get an extra year when you leave a company because you have already hit your 1000 hours worked and their document does require a consecutive 12 months, this is common.

Apple LC ➡️ TC Sep 11, 2019

Never heard of that, but if a company was offering buyouts I could see this being part of the package.

Compass LInR08 Sep 11, 2019

Typically accelerates to zero

PayPal nodejsdev Sep 12, 2019

Op I heard there will be lay off in our company this month. Any thoughts?

PayPal larper7206 OP Sep 12, 2019

Yes there will be. But I don't think it will be terribly widespread. Depends on the org of course.

PayPal xyfp4t Sep 12, 2019

Are you sure? This is first time AFAIK we are having 2nd in a year

PayPal jumpprep Sep 12, 2019

OP, move this to PayPal channel on blind for more insights from insiders

Compass LInR08 Sep 12, 2019

Wtf? Why? We’re all anonymous and besides we’re family.

PayPal jumpprep Sep 12, 2019

Yeah we are gonna be meeting over thanksgiving dinner this year! 😂