Adobe has been doing “silent layoffs”/ letting go of people since the last one year and more aggressively this year. Yet there is no data about it on layoffs.fyi (as less as 3 people laid off from the entire company are being reported). Managers are being pressured to identify low performing individuals. Though in reality it’s just based on favoritism and politics. I think it’s either to avoid giving severance or to keep up an image of being one the best places to work. But this sneaky way of letting so many people go without any well documented performance issues, dev plan or pip and not calling it layoffs is going to be detrimental to the people affected when it comes to job search. Is there a way we can aggregate and put this date out in public. Also adding a poll here to get an idea of how many people on blind were let go from adobe #severance #layoffs #layoff #adobe #fired
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Performance management is not layoffs. It's unfair for people who did get laid off to mix the two.
Yes, exactly my point. Performance management SHOULD be the right way to do it, else just call it lay offs. But that hasn’t been the case as evidenced by the lack of process involved in correctly identifying and targeting low performers.
HR can push managers to push by raising the bar higher enough to get people in the focus and pip. It is just an tactical way to get rid of people especially when everyone is under pressures and easy to spot scapegoats
do these people get severance who get laid off? Extremely cold to just fire/lay off if there isn't any PIP documentation, even worse if they don't get severance Feel like if it’s purely talent they would just let em off with nothing. I’m sure there some performance and just trimming fat into it. Feel like every company is going through some scrutiny and tougher evals. Hopefully those who get the short end get 10-16 weeks of severance to at least ride some of the storm out.
There is a push to put someone on pip regardless if you as manager don’t think they are under performing. If let go this way no severance is given.
TCS is doing the same thing
They are citing performance as a reason?
Yes maintaining an excel sheet with all "resources" and their "impact ( bs politics)" and dropping them strategically. It's cruel. Quiet cutting. no warnings nothing, people with low performance but gut at buttering up the boss are saved regardless.
I know of two directors in my org who were laid off this year after a reorg.
I was laid off without proper severance.. I was treated very bad by erc and manager during last days of adobe.. I know many people who are impacted.. There will be many people who are impacted and they are not on blind.. I was threatened not to speak about this outside. I requested manager and erc many times to allow me for few months so that i can find my next bread and butter , those idiots didnot listen and tried all ways to kick me out asap.. My manger is an idiot.. He is technically so dumb yet involving im design decisions and made entire product to fail. He just made me a scapegoat .. i wish karma will hit him hard and will hit adobe hard... Once they decide to fire, its brutal .. perf is not at all the reason ..
Op i like your message.. I will be happy if somehow data of how many people were let go in last year is shared to the outside world
Many people won't come forward to reveal their layoff experience in open as Layoffs have social stigma associated. Most layoffs irrespective of the company (Adobe, FAANG), irrespective of its nature (mass layoffs, silent layoffs) raise some kind of performance concerns for future employment. Being a scapegoat in the hands of an incompetent management who blame powerless developers for their planning failures is unfortunately difficult for people inexperienced in software development blame games to grasp.
Most of the folks (if not all) also sign severance agreement which prevents them from coming forward legally
Adobe silent layoffs now in the news https://www.cbsnews.com/news/companies-are-now-quiet-cutting-employees/
Sharing a post from internal blind below: "Quiet Cutting" - A strategy for silent layoffs ------------------------------------------------------------------- The news is finally out. Companies including Adobe have been publicly identified as employers that have been stealthily restructuring their workforces via "Quiet Cutting" over the past year. Basic strategy is to reassign employees to undesirable roles or reassign to failing teams or reassign to failing projects with more demanding work and unrealistic/unreasonable/unmanageable work expectations which forces their exit in a passive aggressive way while saving on severance costs and minimizing the risk of public disparagement. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/companies-are-now-quiet-cutting-employees/ https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/youve-heard-of-quiet-quitting-now-companies-are-quiet-cutting-ba2c326d #silent-layoffs #quiet-cutting
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