Tech IndustryMar 18, 2017

Amazon abandoning stack-ranking

Hi, Recently I read in some article that Amazon has abandoned the stack-ranking system used when it comes to performance review. Is this true? Has it been 100% abandoned? What is the "new" system now? Is it better?

Amazon JediMaster Mar 18, 2017

Correct. No more stack ranking to fit a curve.

Microsoft Cristiano Mar 18, 2017

Curve is still enforced by the artificial low budget.

Amazon JediMaster Mar 18, 2017

Perfect, those will get no salary increase but won't be flagged as least effective and eventually let go.

Uber upsidedown Mar 18, 2017

Has the culture improved any

Amazon JediMaster Mar 18, 2017

Nope. Same cutthroat culture

Amazon MLR16 Mar 19, 2017

nope

Amazon 🛁♻️ Mar 18, 2017

This is correct but there's a lot to unpack. 1. Stack ranking is no longer forced, 100% abandoned 2. Reviews are not "performance reviews" any more 3. Reviews are less punitive; focus on "superpowers" and "areas for improvement" 4. Ranking still exist, but now are forward looking as a measure of investment (no investment, normal investment, high investment) and are not shared with the employee 5. Peer feedback is no longer lensed through the manager; given verbatim to the employee (unless the feedback is flagged as inappropriate) 6. The new system's feedback has been more positive than negative; but it is new and we have some areas we can improve upon it

Amazon JediMaster Mar 18, 2017

Good summary!

Microsoft dFjC51 Mar 18, 2017

Thanks for the breakdown. Seems that it addresses a lot of the problems I had with the old system. You've made me one step closer to coming crawling back. :)

Uber Hit68ftu Mar 18, 2017

Does "no investment" mean "to be managed out"?

Amazon 🛁♻️ Mar 18, 2017

Is does not mean that in many cases. Might just be we don't see them growing or progressing much. In some roles that's fine. As a SDE1 like 2 years out of school it would be a problem. You could be nailing all the metrics, have good leadership, just there's no expectation of growth.

Amazon Dilemmazz Mar 18, 2017

Still enforcing 7 % on Least effective. Next year it will be enforced more strictly.

Amazon 🛁♻️ Mar 19, 2017

There is no Least Effective any more. How would we enforce that?

Amazon cdggsdc Mar 19, 2017

Yes there is still hidden rating. TT, HV, LE There is no enforcing though

Intel mnm Mar 19, 2017

Intel supposedly does bottom 10% staff reductions each year but I've seen no evidence of this.