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Apple ICT5 or Amazon L7?

Two offers Amazon: Principal (L7), TC $750k Apple: ICT5, TC $600k with different breakdowns, all in AI/ML. Would difference in TC be no brainer, is Amazon L7 considered higher or similar to ICT5? Work culture? Do you consider one company to be a higher tier than the other? Appreciate the responses from people with experience in either or both. TC: $880k

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Apple BroCoderz Mar 16

Apple = Prestige + Better WLB

Meta shkmssk Mar 16

Amazon principal is definitely more prestige..

X XSnk04 OP Mar 16

How common is ICT5 at Apple? It seems to be a rather large band. Would you say ICT5 and L7 are equivalent levels?

Salesforce SaIesforce Mar 16

Join Amazon for a month to get that brand value and title. Principal is a good achievement. After a month, move to Apple or anything else.

X XSnk04 OP Mar 16

Shouldn’t 1 mo employment be even omitted on resume? Also, leaving after only one month, would that not burn the bridges with the company, Apple or Amazon?

Salesforce SaIesforce Mar 16

I dont think it burns any bridges. Also, why keen on joining a toxic company like Amazon in the future.

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xMicro$oft Mar 16

Dang, X pays 800K? Is that all cash? What kind of role is that?

Cerner rookie🚀 Mar 16

Does amazon and apple fire you if you don’t get promoted in 2.5yrs?

JLL shtposter Mar 18

Not at that level

Flexport garchgad Mar 16

Can negotiate higher for PE

X XSnk04 OP Mar 16

That wasn't my experience. What's a good number you have heard recently?

Flexport garchgad Mar 16

6 months ago a former coworker got 800ish in the Seattle area. I guess their offers might have changed. He had competing E7+ offers from Meta and some other companies. His recruiter indicated that VP exceptions for PEcompensation were not uncommon

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Timpi Mar 16

Why would you leave for less comp?

Dropbox dsgedgb Mar 16

What location is this?

X XSnk04 OP Mar 16

SF bay area

Amazon katsu_ Mar 16

What's the location for offers?

X XSnk04 OP Mar 16

SF bay area

Amazon katsu_ Mar 16

Does 600k include sign on?

Amazon QIBT47 Mar 16

Amazon L7 but be prepared to not have a life

Amazon murgadance Mar 17

Don’t know about Apple but as a PE you are also responsible for finding org technical problems and solve through force multiplication. Needless to say you will be in all day meetings, reviewing design docs, meeting L8/10s with your own proposals and have zero life outside work.