Imo there's nothing he could have done. He was probably presented with options to handle the pandemic. But the probability of coronavirus pandemic was almost certain. The issue is the legal system and culture. Imagine lockdown vs non lockdown reduces the chance of widespread corona by 1%. Would you do it? Corona is a natural disaster and blaming one person is just bs. If you disagree I'd like to hear your rationale. Thinking of who to vote for this election
Trump is a jackass, but the US response to coronavirus is largely the result of US culture and defiance to rules, not any specific action taken by our government. That same defiance is why the US succeeds in so many other ways, but it definitely contributes to the “I’m not going to follow your rules” challenge around masks and social distancing.
This is spot on.
Other culturally similar countries (UK, Australia) are doing much better. Plenty of countries have an independent streak, but no country has handled it worse, and only ones with similar leadership contemptuous of science are even close (early in the UK, Russia, Brazil). Just because they're a grain of truth to Americans being reluctant to listen to rules doesn't mean the awfulness is "largely" because of that reluctance. It's largely because there are no federal rules and not even science-based guidelines.
His ‘shutdown’ from China and the world did not apply to American citizens. He constantly refused to set the example for wearing masks. Not only that, he politicized something that’s common sense. He used the knowledge of covid before it was known to make money in the stock market - and couldn’t care less about the health risk for the country. Said it would disappear in a matter of days, like a miracle. He refused funding to blue states and cities and tried to belittle them while they were facing an epidemic. His sole agenda has been monetizing off of his presidency. I agree that democrats too play politics, but this isn’t a bipartisan issue. This is a common sense issue. #votehimout
Please provide sources if you are going to claim his "pre-existing knowledge" lead to him profiting in the stock market. In regards to monetizing his presidency, hasn't he lost a significant amount of money since becoming president?
You kidding there’s multiple sources showing his family made bank.
The fact that this poll still has 50:50 voting, and people that willfully want to be ignorant is why he was elected in the first place. Please - please don’t fall for his false promises.
50/50 is on his corona response. There are a million bigger problems with Trump. Unfortunately the media goes after *every* opportunity to blame him and this damages their credibility resulting in more people distrusting the media and deciding to vote for Trump. If our media was honest and only attacked Trump for things that are clearly on Trump, the guy would stand no chance of re-election.
Well said^ I'm voting for Trump because you guys don't want me to. (And by you guys I am referring to the media, every sports figure, musical figure, celebrity, etc) Lebron james and Billie Elish say "Vote blue" and sheep are like "okay!"
I accidentally checked 'agree'
God damn people are dumb. Obama set up a pandemic response team. Their entire reason for existence was to handle something like this. Trump and Bolton disbanded it. At the time Trump said something along the lines of “as a biz man I don’t like wasting money on things like this. If needed it will be easy to restart it” Then he spent months trying to minimize C19 Then he just gave up C19 is not his fault Then complete and utter failure of the US government to mobilize to deal with it is 1000% his fault Hillary would have had the entire fed geared up and moving. Trump actively prevented it from doing so.
I really hope @lullll is being sarcastic....
Have you watched the news and see how other leaders from other countries have handled COVID? Trump is the leader of the most powerful country in the world and he’s cost so many lives because of his incompetent ways of running the federal government.
According to who? Oh the media you consume. Right.
I'm curious to know what media you consume since all of your comments so far have been in bad faith and you've questioned every opinion here due to no sources without providing any sources for your own opinions
You typically can’t blame one person for something like this. Except when that person is the fucking president of the United States. The whole point of the job is to get everyone in the fed pointed in the same direction
Damn dude if only YOU were president we'd be in such a better spot..... damn....
TBH A stationary ham sandwich would have done a better job. At least it wouldn’t have been spreading disinformation and putting up roadblocks.
Coronavirus being his fault or not, the president needs to be a president for everyone and not just his base. - Trump could have helped the economy with more stimulus ,cheques etc for those who lost jobs. They are working super fast to get supreme court judge but stimulus bill is stuck. - He could have promoted mask wearing long before and it did not need to be a political issue. His children/family are the only ones who broke the rule and didn't wear a mask in the debate for example. - he doesn't believe in climate change. He was promoting coal even a year ago. How can the leader of the free world take that position...? - Whatever your stance is on the above, if you look at results trump doesn't get anything done. His only accomplishment was his first tax bill. He has no ability to get any legislation done and he doesn't even try. All big talk, litigation and executive orders which are meaningless. Where is the healthcare bill he promised in 2016? Where is the immigration reform bill he promised in 2016? Where is the criminal justice reform bill he promised in 2016? He didn't even propose anything. One could have given him the benefit of the doubt if he had bills that he couldn't pass because of the democrats but he didnt even try and this was his main job as president. - he is a hypocrite (order of magnitude more than usual for politicians). He golfs every week on tax payer dime. He golfed more in 1 year alone than Obama did in his full term but he would complain that Obama golfed too much. - if you have read the tax analysis, regardless of whether you agree about him paying no taxes since he has lost so much money in his businesses is right or not, he seems to be committing tax fraud by circumventing the gift tax law by paying his children as independent contractors when they are employer by trump org. - do you really want your daughter (or niece or someone you know) to be not able to abort even if they are raped. Why should the government get a say in this at all? It should be the mother. If you really are undecided, give it a real thought and make your own decision. There is tonnes of info( facts and data not opinions) out there and decide who would be better for you and everyone in general in long term.
1.) Fair point, I think printing and handing out more money is a great solution 2.) We were told not to wear masks initially 3.) 1 guy supposedly "doesn't believe in climate change" and because of that, all the research going into it, has ended abruptly? 4.) For someone claiming that Trump is all "big talk" the verbiage "Trump doesn't get anything done" as one of your arguments is quite ironic. 5.) Oh no, a president that golfs. Got me there! 6.) I Don't know anything on this subject, will have to look into 7.) Dude pro choice/life has been a debate for ages, throwing it in the "fuck trump" bucket is kind of pointless but, it's 2020, I am 100% pro choice
Regarding climate change, he dismantled much of the epa, actively shit on scientific research supporting the need to address it, and backed out of us commitment with other countries to reduce our carbon footprint all in his first year. A few weeks ago he also went and told the west coast they should rake leaves more while the skies are filled with soot from burning forests because of the rise in temperatures.
BTW I blocked mr Full Send. This is blind. No reason to put up with jackasses.
You're right, the thread is way better with him blocked
As a cult leader, he could have promoted mask wearing and social distancing, but all he cares about is the stock market. I lost freedom to travel because of Trump and cultists like you.
Promoted mask wearing?! Weren't we initially told to not wear masks? Furthermore. I don't know where you live. But it's required in my state. So unfortunately I have to wear it. This notion that a president promoting an already mandatory action would significantly change the course of this virus is silly. Consume your CNN. You guys are so smart.
The thing with covid and other new diseases, is at first we can have a guess of what we think we should do, but then once we have more information we should make new guidelines and revise our old guidelines based on that information. The problem here is that the guidelines haven’t been consistent and even though the data now shows that masks help, we’re actually backtracking in progress.