I am a L5 BIE at amazon who is pondering an internal transfer I can either stay on the same team and switch to DE after a few months. Or I can switch to DS by joining another team as an bie and then making the transfer there Which path would you recommend? tc: 190k TC
Depends if you want to interact w stakeholders or not. Do you like optimizing or solving business problems? Do you like math?
Does anyone actually want to work with stakeholders?
so you want to say that a DS has to work with Stakeholders directly?
Some companies do not have Data Engineer job families and in such companies DE pay scale is same as SDE
On paper DE is probably a better career at this point, balance of supply and demand is much more employee-friendly than DS. I say "probably" because I think it's up in the air how future-proof DE is as a career, i.e., how much of the work will be automated or commoditized in the next ~decade. The stakeholder communication part of DS isn't going anywhere. But in practice it depends what you enjoy doing, the day-to-day is pretty different. I switched from DS to DE but then switched back to DS because it turns out I don't like spending all my time writing code.
I’m pretty shocked how much de dominating this poll. I think your prospects to move up the career ladder are much better as a ds.
What would automate away DE? Right now you need tens of DEs for every DS.
Lol maybe next time try answering questions you know the answers to
No lol
Depends hugely on your skill sets and what interests you. But with growing specialization, DS and AS are getting rather math heavy. But beware of “DS”. Some companies call DS what they used to call data analysts, and Amazon is one of them. Applied Scientist is also a very good position.
Sorry to go off topic but how much does a L4 BIE makes? And how is it distributed(base, RSU, bonus) across in Seattle Area and also if you can share your distributed salary?
If you are joining from outside, you can make up to 140-150k. If you change role internally (L4 BA to BIE) you only make probably around 100-110. They literally suppress you to whatever extent they can
Pretty accurate. I got TC 153k for L4 BIE
I am an L5 BIE and my tc is 135k. FML and FA
YOE?
More job security DE
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Both are great. If you want to maximize tc though MLE is the way.
Is MLE paid better than SDE at Square?
Nope but in general it pays better than both of these positions. And it shares a lot of overlap with ds