Tech IndustryFeb 5, 2018
MicrosoftOneTwoStep

Diverse team vs. White males head to head

I’d like to propose an experiment pitting a team of 12 diverse professionals vs. 12 white men given equivalent environment, conditions and requirements to determine which team produces better outcomes. Arguments: Would this experiment prove anything one way or the other? Is it possible for 12 white men to be diverse (Apple VP comment)? Is socioeconomic diversity more important than racial or pigment diversity? Thoughts?

Google relus Feb 5, 2018

That comment was from Apple VP.

Microsoft Feeltheber Feb 5, 2018

It was actually the VP of diversity (ironically). I'd love to see this study. Though neither side would admit defeat regardless of how well proven the results were.

Airbnb Guar Feb 5, 2018

No, that wouldn’t prove anything. Sample size too small.

Microsoft MP3 Feb 5, 2018

At least they’d know some results, unlike tech companies enforcing diversity for no reason 🤣 If they do hire them for different perspective, who says they are needed or it ends up benefiting? Are they making good use of these perspectives? Something tells me they’d have more innovation if they got rid of management who care more about their personal egos and being right than company’s performance.

Yahoo vs35deu Feb 5, 2018

“No reason”? Are you serious? Study after study after study has shown that diverse teams and companies outperform hom0genous teams and companies. And tech companies don’t “enforce” diversity, but they do find ways to stimulate and encourage it. Side note: Really Blind developers, I can’t say “hom0genous”? Idiots.

Apple Kdneuslq Feb 5, 2018

Can someone point which apple exec alluded to this or said it? Curious to read.

Microsoft OneTwoStep OP Feb 5, 2018

I guess it would be more accurate to say former Apple VP, Denice Young Smith

Google RQXB10 Feb 5, 2018

Many teams in tech are only white males, so the sample size for that part is huge.

Microsoft Feeltheber Feb 5, 2018

Not at MSFT. I have yet to be on a team without at least 1 woman, 1 Indian, 1 Caucasian.

Amazon clicklack Feb 5, 2018

Despite the accepted common wisdom of diversity as panacea (through a variety of hard to quantify metrics like differing viewpoints and broadened discussion), there is a body of supporting evidence for the opposite Search for "Heterogeneous Grouping of Students and Its Effects On Learning", or just use your own powers of observation. Much of human history has been made by heterogeneous groups, even if it was the much maligned white male faction in particular. From my own experience, people who share cultural norms, traditions and experiences tend to form closer bonds and produce better work than otherwise.

Google Tapioca Feb 5, 2018

You either need a lot of teams like these or need to control several other factors to reach any conclusion. For instance, the 12 white men might be all college dropouts and the diverse team might be 100% MIT graduates and vice-versa.

Microsoft OneTwoStep OP Feb 5, 2018

Exactly... we focus on racial diversity almost exclusively, when diversity of origin, religion, wealth have a greater impact on our mindset/values and who we are.

Google Tapioca Feb 5, 2018

Sure, but these factors are highly correlated.

Microsoft OneTwoStep OP Feb 5, 2018

Wow, a lot of thoughtful responses. I think if this experiment could be repeated enough times to have a reasonable sample size, I imagined we’d observe mixed results and conclude diversity is very different than what we think it is.

Microsoft Big RSU Feb 6, 2018

white males? had you been frozen for a 30 years? I have yet to see a majority white team, most are indo-chinese

Google liam Feb 6, 2018

Right but if you read liberal fake news press you would "know" that they are actually white males.

Amazon xEon51 Feb 6, 2018

12 white men team is not deverse, but 12 black/women/indian team is?

Lyft MartinGin Feb 6, 2018

All of you are sad.