Fake it till you make it

Do you guys agree with this statement? Does achieving success require putting on a certain persona, sometimes that conflicts with who you are? How does this apply to the Big 4?

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RSM Tolerable Sep 20, 2016

There are definitely people that I began with as an associate who were less competent than me but played up their confidence and had an "I totally understand what you're asking me to do" attitude when they really didn't. They would just agree with things until the other person in the conversation unknowingly gave them the "right" answer. Seems like managers and partners didn't notice this though. Just the associates really.

PwC PianoMan52 Sep 21, 2016

Time and time again if someone (director, client, etc) Asked me a question I'd just ask my senior. Senior would give me the answer. I'd report back to the person asking the question with the answer. Then that person would think I was smart. This has been going on for years. They will find out I'm a fraud eventually.

Deloitte Facsimile Sep 21, 2016

The setback is if this is repeated often, you'll be perceived by seniors as a person who needs too much hand holding--unless an important question is asked that the senior needs to make the call

EY Not JTA Sep 22, 2016

Your senior probably learned a lot using the same methods. Your responsibility is to get knowledge wherever you can and become proficient enough that people start coming to you for answers so you can then pass the baton to the others coming up underneath you. Always be learning, always be teaching. You don't have to know everything to be a teacher, you just need to know something that another person doesn't know.

EY Caffeinate Sep 21, 2016

Pretending you know more and can do more than you actually can is how work is sold. Yes.

Crowe Horwath Crowebot Sep 21, 2016

I hate this phrase. I reported to the COO early in my management career who advised exactly that behind closed doors. I lost all respect for him that day. In advisory, I have heard the same mantra. This axiom is why industry looks at our profession with skepticism bordering in disdain. I for one say "I don't know", or "tell me more..." if I do not posses the expertise to weigh in.

KPMG Candlelit Sep 25, 2016

Would you say you've been honest with your clients? I read your other post and I could feel the passion. But is it not necessary to bs sometimes to maintain the relationship?

Crowe Horwath Crowebot Sep 26, 2016

I've made made my share of mistakes to be sure. But I take this post to advocate a perpetual mindset, which I cannot subscribe to.

Deloitte unavailabl Sep 21, 2016

Wells Fargo current CEO's mantra ;) The end line of the story is - Even if you make it, you can't take it.

Deloitte iqqz27 Sep 21, 2016

I pair it with this notion: WHO you know gets you in the room. WHAT you know keeps you there.

EY yGYC52 Sep 21, 2016

It depends....I'm just make sure I'm open to doing what is asked and pretend to be appreciate being voluntold. I think that's the part that makes you successful other than meeting deadlines, that's just implied. ;) #buildingabetterworkingworld

EY yGYC52 Sep 21, 2016

Appreciative*

PwC vernj239 Sep 21, 2016

There's a difference between deep diving to find an answer, saying I'll get back to you and pretending you know the answer. I consider the former to fall under fake it till you make it as well. There's nothing wrong with having a air of confidence about you and never letting them see you sweat. I don't know too many high performers who don't have imposter syndrome. If you don't, you are likely not pushing yourself at all.

Moss Adams unclemoss Sep 21, 2016

wow... this is not what I've experienced. I've usually been praised for saying "I don't know but I'm going to find out"

EY shub Sep 21, 2016

I don't fake it on details - I'm going to keep faking that I actually am an adult until I make it.

KPMG Mr. Mint Sep 21, 2016

I'm actually three kids dressed up in an oversized suit. The bottom kid uses his phone to Google the answers we need.