I asked for a L4 interview, but just got offer from Google only for L3 position. Recruiter told me to give expectation. Which number should I give? I'm planning to negotiate L4, do you have any suggestion? My experience: - 1.5 yoe - L61 @Microsoft - Currently 132k base, 30k bonus, 10k stock refresher, 120k stock / 4 year #google , #microsoft
You’re not getting L4 @ google. They are known for down leveling basically everyone. If you were 62 you MIGHT be able to push, but you’re not so they won’t. I don’t mean to be shitty about it, but this is a known fact about google.
He's right. I've seen plenty of people moving from Amazon to google and every single one of them got downlevelled.
Doesn’t 61 and 62 map to L4 ?
I’d say reject and try next year for L4. Hard to get a better TC than your current one at L3 + 1.5 YOE. Bay Area L3 offers range from 190k to 220k without competing offers.
Thanks. For Bay Area L3, do you have the breakdown on TC? I was told by recruiter that I should be able to land L4 in Google in 8-12 months, so it's the same if I go with Google and trying to get the promo at L4.
L3 to L4 promo on an average takes 2 years, 1.5 if you get lucky. Also, a friend just accepted their L3 offer with 4 YOE and got $201k TC in the Bay Area. Having no competing offers sucks. Google has an upper limit of $145k on base for L3 afaik. 15% bonus. Rest is GSUs.
I'm seeing lot of ppl going from l3-l4 in 1 year. So it's totally doable and not rare at all. I would say go with Google even if it is l3. Much better brand than Ms. Will help you in future also.
Congrats! How did you prep?
Are you in Seattle or Bay Area? Also did you have Master?
No chance of you getting L4
Don’t ask for l4 but negotiate compensation as if you were giving l4. Search blind or levels.fyi for an idea of compensation band for your region.
Yes. Google has notorious reputation for this. Think twice about joining
Op what did you do
New grad at msft ?
Yeah coming in at new grad L59 1.5 years ago.