Google L4 vs Amazon L5

Got a Google L4 offer in Cloud: 160k Base, 15% annual bonus, $360k / 4 years No sign on Amazon L5: 178k Base, 109k 1st year sign on, 77.5k 2nd year sign on 75 Amazon RSU with the normal amazon vest Current TC: 250k YOE: 4 Amazon team is a data team within an ML org. I'm much more excited about working in ML than infrastructure in Cloud. But someone gave me the advice that you should pick based on the company, not the team. What would you do? #engineering #swe

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Amazon Amzniann Sep 23, 2020

Locations?

Uber YdcV87 OP Sep 23, 2020

Both are in the Bay Area

Uber exz47(3ff Sep 23, 2020

Definitely Google. If you're interested in ml, you can easily switch teams over there and ml at Google will be much better. Other than that, the style of work, learnings, culture, brand at Google is much much better. Also with refreshers your Google TC will increase a lot but Amazon won't give you refreshers. And no bonus also at Amazon Amazon is known to chew and spit ppl out. Pls do not take Amazon. Make it into a poll.

Uber YdcV87 OP Sep 23, 2020

lolololol this seems to be the general advice. My concern about google is the reputation for being "lazy" and honestly they haven't innovated that much business-wise. They have the best engineers but can't solve business problems. Wondering if that's valid or not though since I'm a SWE.

Snapchat QaH7er3PxL Sep 23, 2020

Lol at easily switch teams to ml at google. Especially from cloud infra.

Apple 🍎rocks Sep 23, 2020

Your Amazon offer is close to 300k. Ask Google to match that and join Google and switch to whatever team you are interested in after a year.

Amazon oDja13 Sep 23, 2020

I think it might be harder to move teams internally than people are saying. Just make sure you check this. Ask Google to match the Amazon offer

Uber YdcV87 OP Sep 23, 2020

Any advice on how to check this? Reach out to google employees on Linkedin?

Amazon oDja13 Sep 23, 2020

Ask Googlers right here on Blind. Recruiters may not be honest

Google hwvissc Sep 23, 2020

I'd go for Amazon, more scope at L5 and higher comp. Promo at Google is very hard, take what you can get.

Uber exz47(3ff Sep 23, 2020

Why more scope? L5 is sde2 at Amazon and all my friends don't have big scope. Sde 3 is the one which has much broader

Uber YdcV87 OP Sep 23, 2020

L5 Amazon and L4 Google are the same level though? You're saying L5 has more scope?

Uber niubi Sep 23, 2020

amazon wlb and culture is so bad

Citrix Systems 274wjshsb Sep 23, 2020

Google resume > Amazon resume

Cisco ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎ Sep 23, 2020

Did you have to negotiate with Amazon for that offer or was it their first offer?

Uber YdcV87 OP Sep 24, 2020

Had to negotiate. If you get an offer without a competing FAANG, both Amazon and google lowball you hard.

Clari bezos413 Sep 24, 2020

OP, did u share screenshots of email offers or had to share entire offer letter ?

Juniper bing123 Sep 28, 2020

@OP what did you decide on?

Google coasterr Sep 28, 2020

Google offer looks on the low side. I know an L4 who got 350k TC. Negotiate and take G.