Tech IndustryApr 15, 2021
MicrosoftqRVT56

Google L7 SWE

Just got a L7 SWE offer at Google. base $265K Stock 1.2M Sign-On 70K How does this compare to typical L7 engineer IC Offer at Google? Should I counter? Current TC - $680K YOE: 15 Years

Apple allure Apr 15, 2021

This looks like an L6 offer.

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

Thank you.

Wayfair stonksfair Apr 15, 2021

Congrats on the offer but that looks really low for an L7

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

Thank you for the tip. I've not signed off yet.

Snap QaH7er3PxL Apr 15, 2021

Let's face it op, it's a pay cut but you'll sign anyway. They know what they are doing.

iStreamPlanet senõrengg Apr 15, 2021

Not too bad, but I think you can push for more. Btw. How was your interview? Is it for GCP or other org?

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

Thank you very much for the tip. The interview was much heavier on domain and system design, since this is for L7. There was only one interview for coding/algorithms: a slight variation of Knapsack problem (worded as a general scheduling problem). They take the behavioral/leadership round very seriously.

iStreamPlanet senõrengg Apr 15, 2021

Thank you for the details! Curious if you asked the recruiter to be considered for L7, or they assigned you to that loop based on initial conversation? Did you meet your hiring manager beforehand or you went through the general process? I know there are different recruiters hiring for L7+ positions vs the others who target lower levels.

Wayfair stonksfair Apr 15, 2021

Google is so on it's way to become the next Microsoft. Not that it's a bad thing.

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean MSFT is bad? I've never understood this opinion about Microsoft. It is a large company, so your experience will vary depending on the team. But there are teams with extremely good managers and world-class engineers. Thinking of leaving only because I've been here for a very very very long time...

Wayfair stonksfair Apr 15, 2021

I meant that they're trying to lower thier overall compensation to engineering throughout knowing that people will still flock in like sheep given thier brand. I explicitly mentioned that it isn't a bad thing. Both of the companies are best at what they do and good for engineers as well

Microsoft dhccx Apr 15, 2021

What's ur current level in MS? 680 is way above L67 target.

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

I am at the upper end of L66. Will most likely get L67 promo this year (if I decided to not leave). Edit: Ah, you said "above". Yes, I've been top 15% in every review for 15 years.

Apple allure Apr 15, 2021

What’s your secret to be top 15%. What do you do differently?

Microsoft dhccx Apr 15, 2021

Is it seattle/redmond or bay area? 670 is unbelievable for L66

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

My current base is 265K, bonus ~85K, stock ~130K. I also have a retention award that vests over 3 years - this year being the last one. I guess I will make less next year if I stay, even with L67 promo.

Coinbase thejcrew2 Apr 15, 2021

Wait how does that become 670k, that’s 480k. Also congrats on that type of salary at Microsoft

Microsoft cKhX81 Apr 15, 2021

66 to l7 is a pretty good upgrade. Stock could be larger, but a competing offer might be needed.

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

I don't have any competing offers.

Bloomberg {PATH<GO>} Apr 15, 2021

Your current job is a competing offer

VMware xujc34 Apr 15, 2021

this is low for L7. I was offered slightly lesser than this but with front-loaded RSUs for L6 in GCP. you can negotiate more.

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 15, 2021

Thank you for the tip. Do you mind specifying your offer details? Did you have a competing offer? I did not interview anywhere else.

VMware xujc34 Apr 15, 2021

My offer was 240K base 1.2m stock, 30K sign on

Facebook shtsl Apr 16, 2021

$1.2M for L7? Why so low.. :/

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 16, 2021

Can you please help me with what is typical?

Facebook tles Apr 16, 2021

$1.6-$2.2M

Facebook MoveFast! Apr 16, 2021

Your TC @ MS is really good! Low-balled by Google

Microsoft qRVT56 OP Apr 16, 2021

I have the option to stay. And, the G offer is not final yet. Can you please tell me what is typical at G-L7 or FB-E7?

Facebook MoveFast! Apr 16, 2021

Your offer matches a high end E6 offer @ FB. But I know recent a couple of years Google stopped bidding war and know several cases that their offer is much mess than FB’s. So you should try FB (well, very high expectations though)