My Noogler teammate got PIPed and doesn't want to share this with his mentor or other teammates. He is here for 6 months and is seen as an okay performer by the team. The manager used to tell him to take everything easy and slow down. Now she made a 180 turn saying he needs improvement on delivery. I reviewed the expectations and it seems very reasonable. Is there more to the story other than just completing the tasks? I am posting on his behalf as he doesn’t like to ask for help.
'Take everything easy and slow down' can sometimes be manager speak for 'You are making a ton of awkward blunders that are either the result of carelessness or ineptitude'
That's right. I think the manager also explained how slowing down his pace would be just fine. I guess it was more leaning towards what you said.
Which unfortunately might have also meant 'you are so far below the bar it's hopeless. Don't stress yourself out since this isn't going to work out anyways'
Does being PIPed ever not necessarily lead to being fired?
Noogler teammate doesn’t want to share this with his mentor or other teammates but shared it with you? This is Blind - you can say you were pipped. No need to pretend it was a teammate.
That's right. There is no reason to lie in an anon forum. Why would you assume it was me?
@topson Many people still lie on blind as they are worried that their bosses would also be on blind and figure out from the context that this particular subordinate is complaining about them. By making it a 3rd party narrative, they may want to avoid being identified as a complainer.
Can you ask in G internal channel and post results here: - will his manager get piped if she doesn’t meet the pip quota - will she be let go if she decides to keep the employee but the employee gets put on pip again I suspect the answers to both questions are YES
There is no pip qouta in Google. He genuinely needed help.
You can't be PIP twice at G. After surviving PIP if your performance declines HR will automatically let you go instead of offering a second PIP
Asking for a friend, I swear! They work at Google, but don't know how to use blind for themselves.
I have friends at G that don’t use blind, not that crazy
Past data of PIP success rate is not going to be useful in this environment.
You’re an awesome friend/coworker. It’s sketchy to hear that they were telling them to take it easy/relax and then suddenly shift expectations. That’s a red flag. PIPs at Meta and Google in the past used to be something you work through, but in this environment I have yet to hear of someone “passing” even when delivering everything. Even if passed, that person is at the mercy of the manager’s subjective view (which we’ve already seen did a 180, hence 🚩).
Oh! I think this could be a pre/post layoffs expectation shift too! :(
6 months and employee in PIP, to me that manager is the incompetent one to let a new employee fail! If candidate can pass google interview he is competent enough, issue is with mgmt or group to have to meet artificial quotas! 🤦🏻♀️
This is sick.
Any update? I’m pretty sure I’m headed towards PIP. Trying to get ahead of it by performing better now but not sure if it’s too late - trying to get an idea for how sever pip is. Death sentence? Or nag?
He got terminated. Met around 95% of the expectations according to him and his manager but for PIP you are supposed to be exceed the expectations. As many others pointed out, PIP is lethal and you wanna make peace with your manager even before you get one.
Good guy 👏
Just practising googliness. Haha.