Tech IndustryJan 10, 2018
Microsoftlive2work

Help me pick companies

I'm 62 at MS with almost 3 yrs exp. TC is 240k but that will end in a year after my last hire stock and drop to 160k. I have a plan that I will interview now and if I get something good, go now, else try again in 1 yr. I have done well in distributed systems and some ML projects. I have done about 200 leetcode problems and I am getting pretty fast. I want to work 80-100 hours a week and make good money with absolutely no WLB. I am highly disillusioned by MS and its sinking quality. These are the companies I have lined up for interviews so far for a Distribsys/ML type role: G, FB, U, App, Amz, DE Shaw, two sigma. I like the idea of Amazon Ads because they are planning a huge push in 2018, and I feel like Id fit in. I also admire amazon as a company more than the others. But im worried amz doesnt pay well enough. I want to stay in seattle due to investments I have made here, ideally, and definitely won't consider bay area. so that unfortunately rules out netflix. What am I missing in my list?

Microsoft Arye11 Jan 10, 2018

Life

Microsoft live2work OP Jan 10, 2018

I clearly mentioned that is not a priority. Plus, I just dumped my gf so I can do more kaggle and leetcode

Amazon shitcoin Jan 10, 2018

Or maybe she dumped you because of your attitude and priorities.. maybe.

Microsoft !nutella! Jan 10, 2018

+lyft

Microsoft live2work OP Jan 10, 2018

It feels like a big underdog though. Does it matter?

Microsoft !nutella! Jan 10, 2018

Two sigma in Seattle?

Microsoft live2work OP Jan 10, 2018

No that one is NYC but for 400k+ possibility I would consider a temporary gig in NYC. Same for DE Shaw

Microsoft !nutella! Jan 10, 2018

In that case, Netflix also offers $400k+ in bay area ..

Microsoft TeeEssM Jan 10, 2018

can you tell me how you’ve entered the ml/distrs area? I am also interested. Is it doable through self study and then apply internal / external transfer? My background is not in these areas so not sure if this is too late.

Microsoft live2work OP Jan 10, 2018

Well I found its quite easy to transfer internally to a team doing Distribsys since most of our products are now that way. For ML look to bing search or substrate query intelligence teams. It's really only getting started. Kaggle, leetcode, and Google white papers are the 3 most important resources.

Microsoft TeeEssM Jan 10, 2018

k tyvm

Booking.com Fullon Jan 10, 2018

Do you mean you are 62 year old?

Microsoft UMbR31 Jan 10, 2018

Did you get from 59 to 62 in "almost 3 yrs" ? If this rare unheard of promotion velocity is true, you should stay to make 63.

Microsoft TeeEssM Jan 10, 2018

he’s a competitive hacker who lives to code. Apparently Microsoft work life balance doesn’t fit his style. hmm 5am still on blind. my workday is screwed.

Microsoft UMbR31 Jan 10, 2018

However good the person is, have you ever heard an example of 59 to 62 in <3 years?

Amazon h1b visa Jan 10, 2018

Do yourself a favor by doing something meaningful. Work for a startup or enroll in a PhD program

Microsoft live2work OP Jan 10, 2018

I want to. But right now $ and title are my only priorities because I need to make up for lost time. I'll go get my phd as a retirement project.

Microsoft bas Feb 5, 2018

retirement project lol what’s the point.

Amazon awssdm Jan 10, 2018

If you want to pour your life into working for a corporation, amazon will pay plenty and will promote quickly

Lyft Werkwerkwe Jan 10, 2018

OP having been in a similar bucket to you, I have some advice. Sticking around for senior is not worth it. Other companies won't respect your level if your pay doesn't match (the drop to 160 will kill you). Go interview now and at least you won't have to take a down level. Plus you have a big paycheck by Microsoft standards for your age which can help start the floor of your negotiations high. Also, always get competing offers.

Microsoft live2work OP Jan 11, 2018

If I give them my tax slip it looks high, but if they want to see my bonus page they will figure it out. During negotiations, do you send them a tax slip as proof what you presently earn? I'll definitely try for competing offers.

Lyft Werkwerkwe Jan 11, 2018

You only have to show them what you want to show them. So figure out how to present yourself by withholding information when it benefits you and showing things when it benefits you. You have to feel out each individual situation yourself. Easiest and best thing to do is to get competing offers since it can make your Microsoft pay irrelevant.

Microsoft hdj8hrj Feb 5, 2018

What type of autism do you have?