My PIPazon manager would like me to join a meeting at 2am on a Monday..yes 2AM on Monday (it is not a scheduling mistake). Just FYI, we are not responsible to manage emergency room or issues of life&death. We primarily worry whether Jeff B is comfortable buying fancy shoes for Lauren next quarter. Andy MF Jassy... Is this what you were dreaming about when you proposed PIPazon to be Earth's best employer? On a serious note, how should I respond? TC - š„... With 36% return on Amazon shares in the last 5y, what else do you expect? ------- Update: Thanks everyone for your comments. I politely declined the meeting citing my inability to attend in middle of night in my time zone. I am now prepared to face the music. Before declining the invite, I assessed the situation deeply, and I realized that continuing to accept such behavior may not send a right signal. As Edmund Burke said, āThe only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothingā. I chose to stand up for myself this time.Ā Moving forward, I hope this community will continue to highlight such behaviors to create awareness, drive accountability and raise cost of chutzpah for employers that treat employees like expendable resources.Ā A few thoughts/suggestions 1. For friends considering to join PIPazon, pls reconsider. The brand, the comp and the sacrifices may not be worth the pain. 2. Before accepting offers at PIPazon, make sure your total comp is commensurate with the additional pain given by the employer. The firm's chutzpah to pull off such behavior should make it cost-prohibitive over time to hire great candidates 3. Create awareness among current graduates at your alma mater to highlight unsufferable working conditions at the firm.Ā Ā 4. Create awareness in media about the actual working conditions in the firm, encouraging the firm to reform its toxic culture 5. To fellow PIPazonians, let's continue to push leadership on LP of striving for being Earth's Best Employer. It is high time LT should earn our trust on their ability to deliver on the goal.
Is it one time or recurring? Make some excuse and tell your manager if you can correspond by offline means. For example docs / emails etc. If itās one time thing, then I would say suck it up and do it. We all have done it sometime or other.
I am just surprised whether some of managers at PIPazon have awareness of personal boundaries. Or is it common for them to leave skeletons on trail?
OMG +att mr Google, if tomorrow you are asked to eat shit for one time I am sure you will suck it up!!!! why the hell it matters if 2 am meeting is for one day or multiple days. We are better than this to realize the root issue here.. Come on.. FYI op, if you need referrals I can provide, Reddit is hiring.
If the meeting can run without you. Decline it. If not then choose your own time for rescheduling
Sounds like BS to me.
True story
Sure, sure.
Tell him you canāt because you have a conflict Iāve gotten out of 8pm meetings saying Iām late for my next one and everyone believed. FU Amazon , never again
Lmao. This is epic
ā¤ļø.. Actually, it is a perfect response. A renowned psychologist once said, "An abnormal reaction to an abnormal situation is normal behavior." - Viktor Frankle
A few times a yr isnāt the end of the world, just come in later.
2am meeting is never necessary, should be rescheduled to accommodate a slightly less terrible time. I however have done many 5am and Midnight meetings. Such as life when working with global teams and customers.
Bravoā¦. Midnight and 5 am meetings are also never necessary unless you are oncall
Op Indian? Working in India or EU?
This is discrimination!
If you're saving lives and making the world a better place, sure.
Amazon is doing neither. I should it is doing exactly the opposite by unnecessarily encouraging 1-day or hourly delivery at the cost of climate, sellers, employees and poor bottle-peeing delivery drivers. This 2am meeting is just one data point to support the toxic culture.
Are you out of mind, what would you change by then? You are in IT not an avanager.
Say if it is saying life of 100 kids you will join it. Since it is not doing that, you are not joining. Good night.
You likely chose a EU facing role so suck it up
I cannot confirm or deny the accuracy of your comment for privacy reasons. Regardless, your comment suggests that some PIPazon jailers (calling them managers would be too generous) have too much control over their sl*ves.
Ok now that we know the region, is it EKS?