I’m an immigrant and Trump does not scare me

Nov 1, 2018 73 Comments

Recently, especially after the birthright citizenship debacle, I’ve seen lots of legal immigrants rant on how they feel unwelcome in the USA and how they are considering moving to a different country or returning to their home country.

Everyone is entitled to their own feelings and opinions. While it saddens me that people feel unwelcome or unsafe it, I want to share my view which is stands at the opposite end of the spectrum.

I’ll just throw this out there: if you’re abusing these nation’s immigration laws by means H1B fraud or by bogus asylum claims or by crossing the border illegally your in Trump’s crosshairs. This however is as it should be. This is a nation of laws. It will stop being a nation altogether the moment it allows anyone and everyone to come here as they wish.

As a legal immigrant however I don’t worry about any of that. In fact I’m applying for citizenship soon and have no reason to fear because I’ve been truthful and honest every step of the way and followed the law to the letter. And my understanding is that that is what this administration wants. I have enough republican friends & neighbors who I talked to and that’s what they want as well.

If you’re here legally, your children have US citizenship and no one is advocating for changing that.

There’s no generalized hate towards immigrants. Quite the opposite. When I mentioned that I believe this is the greatest country on earth, and feel positive about my family’s future here (buying a second house soon & starting a side business) I received a number of messages of support and encouragement. I’ve only been verbally assaulted for breaking outside the groupthink norms on social issues such as this.

Maybe it won’t help anyone, but since there are so many immigrants who feel this way I thought I’d share my opinion.

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TOP 73 Comments
  • New / Eng @#$_&
    Maybe you don't feel scared because you are on your way to citizenship. People who don't have a green card have a lot to be fearful. Even the legal ones. The ones that have been to top schools and work for big 4 too.
    Nov 1, 2018 7
    • PayPal Yellowp
      OP, H4-EAD is here to stay. There’s L2 EAD as well. If H4 EAD goes away, then L2 EAD must go away as well.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Apple / Eng Marijuana
      L-2 EAD was created by Congress. It also does not have any requirements for prevailing wage.

      So the only difference is whether the program itself is legal (being administrative vs statutory) , and that should be something the supreme court should decide.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Lyft ci7gh4
    I got my gc from trump after Obama delayed it by years
    Nov 1, 2018 6
    • Microsoft Ilovebeer
      rofl
      Nov 1, 2018
    • Lyft ci7gh4
      That photo is almost as good as my gc
      Nov 3, 2018
  • McAfee JohnMcPee
    You are thinking about happy paths where it’s all sunshine and roses. But there are so many factors at play.

    1. What happens if there is a clerical error when your petition is filed?
    2. What happens if your I-140 is approved yet you can’t switch because of some USCIS rule?
    3. What happens if you are laid off without cause (not everybody works at FANG)?
    4. What happens if your visa is rejected even if you have all the documents?
    5. What happens if you are stranded in another country because you wanted to stamp you passport and the visa officer threw a fit?

    No one is denying that the system is being gamed by a few. But it is unfair to the others who are here legally without any fraud of any sort.

    You have to be prepared for the sudden things that happen in life. And that is scary. It’s like you have tested your code. QA has tested your code. Your code worked fine in staging. It worked fine in Production too. But some weird combination of input blew it up. Yeah, you gotta factor in the edge cases too. And it’s not favorable to any immigrant when things go south.
    Nov 1, 2018 12
    • But Indians are the #1 h1b frauds so it makes sense you are also affected the most
      Nov 1, 2018
    • Microsoft Ilovebeer
      you got issues
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Apple / Eng Schneider
    Basically, you got yours, so eff the rest.
    Nov 1, 2018 5
    • Vlocity FTJU
      It's not about the lottery. Even people who have approved visas are being treated like crap. You clearly are out of touch with what is going on.
      Nov 2, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng yayssa
      OP
      I’m sorry you feel that way and I hope things will improve for you. In my org of 300+ we have a few dozen H1Bs. So far only one had to move to Canada for a year and then return on L1 because he didn’t win the lottery. Several of my Indian coworkers told me they only do their visa stamping in Canada because of the way they are treated + risk of bad outcome at US embassy in India.

      Maybe your sample size is much larger than mine or maybe the problems exist but they are not as frequent as you make it sound.
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Google StringerB
    OP is an asshole. Doesn't care about anyone else, now that he is almost at the end of his GC journey. Typical desi. Fuck off.
    Nov 1, 2018 4
    • Microsoft Ilovebeer
      please tell me more about the problems legal immigrants face. I have been on a h1b visa for, goddamn i even forget how long it has been.
      Nov 1, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng yayssa
      OP
      Has it been more than 2 years @ilovebeer? What has 8 years of Obama done for you? If there’s ever going to be a positive change it’s going to be through a merit based immigration system. Remind me again who is for that and who is opposing it?
      Nov 1, 2018
  • Microsoft J0lyr0ger
    Thats because you are not a criminal! Thanks for your hardwork and hopefully you get citizenship!
    Nov 1, 2018 1
    • Microsoft HURi57
      Lol
      Nov 2, 2018
  • Intel Isj91
    Brilliantly stated post
    Nov 1, 2018 0
  • Amazon hlp
    Every time we return from travels, I'm sitting in the plane, thinking: Have I checked all my documents for expiry? Have I checked every document for each child? Has my pretty common name been put on some sort of secret blacklist?

    Will they take my kids and put them for adoption?

    The chances are very low, you could say, and you are right, yes.

    If you think you followed the law to the letter, you are mistaken. That doesn't happen. I'm an ordinary person, but I'm breaking the law at least 5 times a day, and that's just what I know about.
    Nov 1, 2018 1
    • Microsoft / Eng yayssa
      OP
      I have to do all the same things you mentioned and that’s not only to get into the US, but also to be allowed to enter my country of citizenship & birth.

      Regarding having your kids taken away that’s really in the category of irrational fears. I would understand if you lived in one of the Scandinavian countries (just look up Barnevernet - Norway’s child “protection” services if you want to see real horror stories).
      Nov 1, 2018
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    dashazhu

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    dashazhumore
    So H4 EADs are illegal? Why should they lose the right to make money?

    Questioning the birthright citizenship is crossing a dangerous line. Dictators classify certain kinds of people as enemies to direct hatred against them and destroy them one group after another. Maybe one day Trump will say you are not born here so your citizenship is revoked and he can F you whatever way he wants.
    Nov 1, 2018 6
    • Microsoft / Eng yayssa
      OP
      It’s ok to question whether we want to keep doing that going forward. This is not about stripping anyone’s citizenship.

      The problem with DACA and H4 EAD is that they were created by the stroke of a pen. That’s not the president’s prerogative in any democracy. Not Obama’s and not Trump’s. There’s a legislative branch that needs to create these laws. In the current form anyone can challenge them in court and have them effectively annulled. That’s what happened to DAPA.

      You really need to understand the difference between not continuing a borderline illegal program and actively revoking someone’s status.
      Nov 1, 2018
    • Overstock.com / Eng SnlExpldr
      I 100% agree with the fact that Trump shouldn't do what Obama did with executive orders. It should be done through congress and the supreme court.

      Yes it's ok to question citizenship of babies that were born here ILLEGALLY. It's illegal for a reason and if the constitution never actually gave citizenship...it's not actually theirs.

      My wife came here legally...applied for citizenship legally...was granted citizenship...and is a citizen. That is the LEGAL process and should be the only way that citizens become part of the US. GC holders are more of a temporary citizen. They have to keep applying and abiding by the laws. They can apply for citizenship just like every other legal immigrant. It's not an easy process but is necessary.
      Nov 1, 2018
  • Cerner XLdG63
    Check back with me once you talk to fellow immigrants who are on H1B and trying to switch companies after this administration decided to suspend premium processing for months. I am an immigrant and do not fear Trump, not because I believe in his policies (he is so corrupt he makes Nixon look like a choir boy) but because he is so incompetent. Can't wait to see the results of the mid terms that's coming up soon.
    PS: I live in Kansas, Trump country and I can tell you things are looking pretty dire for the House Republicans.
    Nov 1, 2018 2
    • Intel Isj91
      What didn’t Trump get accomplished from his stated goals in his first two years? Seems pretty competent to me.
      Nov 1, 2018
    • Microsoft HURi57
      No matter how this trump thing played out, Trump supporters will say he accomplished a lot no matter what and non Trump supporters will say he accomplished nothing. Same old same old. Neither side will convince the other because both sets of sheep are entrenched in their thinking.
      Nov 2, 2018

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