Intel : 120k + 50k + 20k Hillsboro, OR Team : Technology Dev Automation VMware: 135k + 50k + 25k Palo Alto, CA Cloud Performance Engineering NOTE: Not working at VMware currently #engineering #vmware #intel #job #newgrad
How many years of work experience
4 yrs
Intel as a company seems to be in a bad place, as a new grad might not see growth.
Choose the job which is the most interesting and the team you liked the best. Think about how each role will benefit your growth 5yrs from now. Intel TC in Portland will go much further than VM in Palo Alto, but at your point in your career that shouldn't matter as much.
Thanks! Yes, I know Intel TC is much better considering the location. But the work is mostly specific to Intel whereas VMware's work is bit more generic as it is related to Cloud Performance.
Yes, think about transferrable skills. Don't become an expert in legacy or proprietary stack. Now that being said every company is going to have proprietary code bases, but the skills you learn on that codebase sre likely something you can put on a resume. What job is more interesting?
Been at both places. Intel is solid place to be. Basically u can get away not working 3 months. At Vmware u r expected to perform and chances of lay offs are more
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What is cloud performance engineering ? lmao, they keep coming up with the BS business units.
These are very different roles. Depends on if you're more interested in growing into automation track or perf track. VMware has a very well established and reputable performance engineering team, but perf roles generally require a lot of analytical skills and good overall understanding of the entire software and hardware stack. In my experience, it's not something everyone likes to grow into. If you prefer to be a dev, automation roles might be a better fit for you. If you like learning how several products work together end to end, analyze their performance bottleneck and come up with a more performing approach, then perf roles will be a better fit. VMware's performance engineering team will also have an advantage for you to be easier connect with L7/L8 from different teams because they work with all those very senior tech leaders during product architect phases.
Thank you for detailed explanation. It really helped. I just wanted to know what’s your view for student who are joining MTS (Propel grad program). How’s the growth and learning experience at VMware? I’ve heard this program is having 6 months different team experience for 3 times and we can chose the team which we like. I’m more focused on full stack developer roles and will I get any projects at VMware in my MtS2 role. I got an offer last month and will be joining in July 2021 Appreciate your point of view and experience of yours or any of your friends. Thank you so much
AFAIK propel is 2 rotations, 6 months each, with only 2 batches a year--Feb and Jul. On completion of the first rotation you can choose to stay in the same team or take a different project. The project selections vary every rotation because hiring managers only submit projects shortly before a rotation starts. VMware is a very big company so your experience largely depends on your team. There are good teams and not so good teams. It's hard to predict unless you already know which teams you're considering. Having said that, if you want to grow into a full stack SWE, I don't think perf team is the right choice for you. Perf team does have full stack projects but without passionate in perf engineering, the career growth is generally limited. I've seen many such cases who decided to leave in a short period of time because of this. There are usually many other teams that need full stack SWEs so review the projects carefully and talk to hiring managers or other senior members in the team before making a decision.
Pat quit VMware CEO, and joined Intel as a CEO. So...
It will be really helpful, if you can add comments about why to choose one over other.