TL;DR: In reality, without right connections or exceptional skills, the prospect of securing a tech job is impossible for an average individual in current market. And even if luck grants you an entry, you will not survive a layoff. --- --- --- --- Alright, let's dive into the full picture of how this situation came about. For a while now, we've had a ton of tech specialists from India making their homes in the USA and Canada. But when the COVID pandemic took the world by storm, hiring in the tech sector surged dramatically. Here's where it gets interesting. Because of the pandemic, people found themselves cooped up at home with their family members, many of whom were these same tech professionals. They realized they could potentially usher their spouses, relatives, and friends into the lucrative, high-paying tech industry, regardless of whether they had a traditional tech background or not. The companies didn't seem to mind much either. HR, in their rush to fill positions, found that as long as the candidate could answer a few technical questions and write some code, they were in. This situation presented a golden opportunity that was too good to pass up. Putting their plan into action, they began crafting compelling resumes and online profiles, often leveraging the support of their networks back in Hyderabad, Bangalore, and other tech hubs in India. They even established businesses that undertook the actual work, frequently outsourcing tasks. Going by names like 'Training Institutes' or 'Support Guys', these entities served as stepping stones into tech. Before you knew it, entire families who were previously non-techies found their place in the tech world. And to everyone's surprise, these newcomers are thriving. I estimate that right now, around 10-15% of jobs in the USA and Canada are occupied by these individuals, and growing. This trend is particularly noticeable in contract work, government jobs, and other typical roles offering salaries ranging from $70K to $150K. So, if you're an entry-level engineer, the competition just got fiercer. And now, even seasoned techies are outsourcing their own work. All they need is someone on the ground, a local resident in the USA, Canada, or Europe, willing to be the front face of the operations for a portion of their salary. They offer training in any desired technology, guidance on handling meetings and conflicts, and help to clear any interviews and background checks. Take this example - I know someone personally, a guy working for Amazon Canada. Currently, his wife, his parents, his brother-in-law, and even his brother-in-law's wife all have tech jobs. They all switched to tech, guess when? In 2021! None of them studied engineering, but they've all found employment in the tech sector. They generally avoid the big tech giants, instead aiming for mid-sized companies offering roles with salaries between $100-150K. So, why does this matter? Well, it's significantly affecting the job market. It's tough to land a job now because for every opening, there's a flood of qualified candidates, all with polished resumes, relevant experience, and importantly, strong references. They are capable of acing interviews and holding down these jobs indefinitely, while also continually learning and growing. They're handling the talk, while a team of professionals back in India manages the walk, delivering on time and at a fraction of the cost. My guess is that higher-ups and HR everywhere are aware, but until work is done, they don’t speak up. And most white people don’t care, as these people aren’t going for people roles. Now, I'm not saying there's anything inherently wrong with this. It's a testament to their adaptability and resilience. I myself is from the same community. But it's crucial to stay informed and understand the dynamics of today's ruthless job market. Just working hard might not cut it anymore. You have to be clever, flexible, and occasionally think outside the box to secure your spot in the fiercely competitive tech industry. Ref: 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36863280 2. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fake-interviews-dei-joe-bruno 3. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/increasing-phony-candidates-interviews-canadian-shivendu-sharma 4. https://www.teamblind.com/post/Overemployment-Scam-EORoFy2T 5. Trust me, bro, I know #engineering #programming #hiring #job #itjobs #jobhunt #careerchat TC: 24K, Bcoz I pay 70% Tax, I live in Socialist 🇨🇦 YOE: 10
So true man, I know many of them doing this shit show and all of this people are from one community in desi consultancy living in Dallas
Thanks for confirming brother. I had to write this post from long time. They are giving false hope to so many brilliant kids back home, who would leave other professions and flock to IT just for money.
Wow mind blown.
That’s…wild.
“Nothing inherently wrong” with putting lies in one’s cv? Nepotism? Verbally lie about qualifications? You got that upside down. It brings another point: the hiring managers are grossly incompetent.
This is so f’ed up. Well, I am not sympathetic to the hiring employers, though. If they let this shit to go rampant, someone else will take their market shares.
One more data point: Check out this post! "Indians working in Amazon US outsourcing work to India 10$/hour (Ask Blinders)" https://us.teamblind.com/s/nPaFunXB
So blind is your source of truth? I am not saying it doesn’t happen but it’s limited to consultancies…
Nope I am aware of this from last 5 years 🙈, just got off my heart today. But I never knew the scale of it. Seems tough job market is bringing the monsters out of closet.
Lol ok
How did I know which country is involved before reading the rest of this?
Companies will catch on, especially if employees are giving network access to third parties. You wanna risk going to prison for fraud or trade secrets theft for 10% of tech salary?
No one is going to that route. The HR, legal and managers would just silently as always, bury it. So it would never come out.
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You have to be either good at your job or good at bullshitting, or in the rare case both