Graduating with my masters in December and I have two offers, one from apple and one from nvidia. Help me evaluate and pick between them Apple: IC2? 130k base, 110k stocks, 40k signon GPU Design Implementation Role Hourly, with the ability to work overtime Nvidia: IC3? 145k bass, 104k stocks, 15k signon Silicon Design So Nvidia obviously has a higher base, but I’d like insight on the cultures of both and any other important factors outside of just money. The recruiter keeps emphasizing that the gap in base salary will be more than made up for since overtime is extra pay. Nvidia also has an edge in that it is a straight up design role while Apple is design implementation (more of a focus on synthesis).
Factor the stock growth into the TC.
Apple or nvidia? Regardless to double stock now is gonna take quite a bit of time
Any prior experience before Masters?
Internships
Implementation role obviously gives a greater chance of involvement with overall design and its intricacies. Obviously with the hourly overtime being an additional factor. However friends at Nvidia always have appreciated the culture and WLB in their jobs. Two very good offers with not much to lose in either. Congratulations!
Did you just mean that Apple recruiter said that overtime is paid in apple to compensate the base salary difference?
Yeah like even though the base salary is low, the extra overtime pay will make up the difference
This is new to me. I never knew there is overtime pay for FTEs. On the contrary you should ask the recruiter “Are you planning to screw my WLB by mentioning this” 😏
Overtime in apple is only paid for the first year after graduation. It's not forever. Your nvidia offer looks so much better. 1. Its straight up design 2. It's a higher TC (both base and stocks with the growth projected to $600 per share by 2020 end)
No, but the bump from IC2 to IC3 will come with a much larger RSU grant than nVidia would give on year 2.
Take NVIDIA for decent WLB, job security, diversity of work and future prospects. If in case you are choosing Apple, you are not missing much either.
I'm swe, can't really advice about the TC and the role. But as a company I think Apple has a better trajectory than Nvidia
Stock price wise? Yes. Product wise? I don't really see it. Nvidia has way better portfolio of products.
^lol “portfolio of products”
Congrats on the offers. Was wondering whether the interview was virtual? Did the last round include meeting the director?
Virtual interviews for both. For Apple I only met the hiring manager but for Nvidia I met both hiring manager and director
Nice. I just had my last round with the director at Apple and was not sure what to make of it. Either its good, bad or borderline
I also did grad school and did research into integrated circuits/hardware accelerators at Berkeley, where Apple and Nvidia were recruiting heavily. In terms of technology, you can't go wrong with either company. Nvidia is in a prime spot with datacenter growth and AI becoming embedded into everything, simulations, robotics, smart sensors etc. The silicon engineering at Apple is also really impressive and in demand now. They were hiring heavily for IC engineers since Apple is building its own silicon for Macs and iPhones. Either way you can't go wrong, but I'd do with Nvidia as it has more room to grow. It's much easier for Nvidia to 5x to 1.5T than for Apple to 5x to 10T. Now that would be madness but something to keep in mind.
5x (1.5T) for a hardware company.. which alternative reality are you living in? 🤣.. aapl will come down to its average p/e (15 to 20) in due time ..
Well... Apple is a hardware company as much as Nvidia is (not saying I see Nvidia reach 1.5T any time soon, though, would love to be wrong though 🙄)
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