HousingOct 12, 2019
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Should i buy?

I have about $200k in savings and can use it to buy a house. My rental pay is $1600 and TC $180K. Is it a good idea to invest in a $500k house in Seattle?

Apple jdbrixbe Oct 12, 2019

House is not a investment, itโ€™s a place you live. Rental properties are investments.

Qualcomm qwopikins Oct 12, 2019

Unless your house increases in value as you live there?? Plus it can become a rental later too

Apple jdbrixbe Oct 12, 2019

It has too high carrying cost to be called a investment. Any appreciation only matters if you sell it, but again you would need some other place to live.

Google Bergey Sin Oct 12, 2019

A good rule of thumb is that owning costs about 5% of the property's value per year (property tax + maintenance + mortgage interest + opportunity cost of your equity). So if yearly rent divided by purchase cost in your area is around 5% it doesn't matter much whether you buy or rent, financially speaking.

Cisco ohno! Oct 12, 2019

Yeah doesnt make sense if you plan to sell within 5 years. Else not, and will end up saving more long term if the property is in apreciating zone

Amazon ๐Ÿ‘–...- OP Oct 12, 2019

@bergey, ($1600*12)/$500k = ~3.x% so itโ€™s not worth it!? Thanks for the rule of thumb!

Microsoft S.Strange Oct 12, 2019

What can you buy for $500k that's not a crack shack?

Amazon ๐Ÿ‘–...- OP Oct 12, 2019

Thatโ€™s all I can afford for now.

Salesforce gn36j Oct 12, 2019

Nah, with a 180k TC and 200k in the bank they'd lend you 650-700k easily, placing your house buying power at 850-900k total

Facebook public2 Oct 12, 2019

If you plan to live there at least 7 years then absolutely. Get that free money while rates are low.

Amazon ๐Ÿ‘–...- OP Oct 12, 2019

Canโ€™t say for sure. Iโ€™d like to move around. Converting to rental later is not an option?

Facebook public2 Oct 12, 2019

It is and can be a good option if you live there for a year to get the lower loan rate.

Oracle not_larry Oct 12, 2019

Yes.

Amazon ๐Ÿ‘–...- OP Oct 12, 2019

Can you share your reasoning? Thanks.

Oracle not_larry Oct 12, 2019

You have the savings for 20% down payment and you are planning to buy a house reasonable for your TC. /reasoning

LinkedIn Uranusโ›ข Oct 12, 2019

Buy >>> Rent

Amazon ๐Ÿ‘–...- OP Oct 12, 2019

I wonder how this ๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿผ is true with the Uber economy doing so well.

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javaislife Oct 12, 2019

You should have bought a rental property a while ago my dude that cash is just sitting

Amazon ๐Ÿ‘–...- OP Oct 12, 2019

Itโ€™s in the stock market with 20% IRR.

AOL CwXk65 Oct 13, 2019

Wow op. You are very smart!

Microsoft LiuX52 Oct 12, 2019

You could probably afford a 2 or 3 bedroom place in south Seattle, west Seattle, or north Seattle. With those numbers you could probably afford $600-$700k and rent out or Airbnb a few of the bedrooms.

Uber Mmpz18 Oct 13, 2019

Cash flow is the only thing that matters. Assume no property appreciation in your calculations. Look at how much you will be able to rent the house you are considering buying for and compare it to your monthly costs including mortgage payments, property tax, insurance, etc. Rents rarely decrease substantially but home prices may fluctuate over the years (though over the long term they tend to appreciate at rate of inflation and you can make an argument that in the cities it will beat inflation in long term). This calculation means that (1) even if you move out of your place you will be able to carry your costs while still accumulating equity every month (ie you are not stuck) (2) any appreciation is a bonus but isnโ€™t necessary to make it worthwhile (3) you are never speculating by buying an investment property in a place you donโ€™t understand just based on cap rates. The house you buy Are will be good enough for you so surely it will be good enough for a similarly minded tenant (4) rents will almost surely go up in the medium run, which means even if you are at 0 cash flow to start, it will soon be a source of cash as well. We have 6 doors we have bought over the years where every time it was our principle residence for a while. We are feeling pretty good about our position.

Synopsys girly@syn Oct 19, 2019

thanks for taking time to write a long post, I recently started thinking about buying a home so it is all new research for me

Synopsys girly@syn Oct 19, 2019

@OP, What did you decide finally? please share your research. I am need to it and also saved 20% down payment and since it would be only once in a life time purchase of home, I want to take decisions wisely.