For context, I am an IC3 software engineer at Apple with 6 YOE. I joined in 2020. Current pay: 160k salary, 37.5k per year stock. Spotify offer: Engineer II, 190k Salary, 37.5k stock, no bonus and no stock refresh for 4 years unless you get a promo. The main reason I’m looking to leave apple is for remote work. I don’t want to come back to the office. Should I take this, or wait for a better offer to come along? Update: I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. Also adding this for a bit more context. In 2021, my dad died, which shook me up quite a lot and lead to a lack of focus :(. My performance suffered, and because of that I didn’t get a raise, refresh or bonus in 2021 and my review was pretty bad. Now, I’ve since recovered and my performance has improved dramatically (even according to my manager) but I don’t know what long term prospects look like here. If I want to go for a promo, I’m not sure if 2021 will be held against me.
Sounds a little low for 6 YOE and SDE 2 tbh
Doesn't it depend on location?
Yes but even remote, 230k is low for 6 YOE
Isn’t your Apple TC higher if you factor in bonus?
From what I’ve heard, apple’s bonuses are 20k max.
Spotify works EST though. So you’ll have to move or live east coast times
Hmm interesting, personally I’ve been in a situation where I was living in the pst and worked est, kinda liked it
I thought they had work from anywhere
Is there any refresher at Spotify? I mean if you are looking for something new, Spotify brand name/product + remote seems like a good reason to take them Congrats!
This is the issue. Spotify has no refresher and no bonus.
Hmm…well what is your current refreshers are Apple?
Go for it!
Is that how much Apple pays? Wtf?
Sadge. On par with msft’s peanut pay
I can refer you to an aws team thats remote and you’ll make 100k more than that
So no empathy from Apple's management in light of your performance hit due to your dad's passing and your subsequent grief. What does that tell everyone about Apple's culture?
Whats your current TC
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