Tech IndustryJun 4, 2018
NewBigcola

Startup equity

After some research and soul-searching, I realized that we as candidates have to do something about the disparity between founder/investor shares and the employee pool. Apparently the founders of GitHub have retained at least 50%, while investors around 28%. Meanwhile, more than 700 employees get less than 22% if it were exercised. Early employees will certainly do well in the exit, however if it were not such an overvalued acquisition it would not be the case. Now, it’s true that founding a startup and taking risk should be incentivized. However, startups and their founders are abusing the leverage in getting employees on board while the outcomes are not close to proportional to their own risk and contribution. They can abuse the leverage by refusing to disclose cap tables and other key information. The issue may be due to demand/supply and marketplace. We need to do our part in getting equal pay and full information. And we also need to be founders who care about capturing and caring for talented employees.

SAP qwertyke Jun 4, 2018

Start your own startup.

Facebook TCYOE Jun 4, 2018

Nobody is stopping the employees from doing their own startups. They just have to deal with the risk, coming up with an idea, figuring out mvp, raising funds, iteration, direction, doing first hires, dealing with company structure and pressure for being the final say/direction/culture. So easy.

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Bigcola OP Jun 4, 2018

I get your point, and yes the incentives are certainly skewed towards doing this instead of building out teams. I’ve seen too many startups fail for not hiring. Also the idea/funding/hiring is all cookie cutter stuff that incubators and VCs help with now. That’s also what hiring is for.

Microsoft TCorGTFO! Jun 4, 2018

It will always be this way. Any other model will fail. People that take disproportionate risks get disproportionate rewards. This is needed for the gold rush mindset and DNA that tech has.

Nvidia minio Jun 4, 2018

Try starting a company if you feel it's cookie cutter stuff !!

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Xarg Jun 4, 2018

Cry us a river please.

Honeywell that1guy Jun 4, 2018

Forbes wrote an article that indicated 90% of startups “fail”. I think what their definition of success was positive revenue stream. Meaning... it’s damn hard. Who loses money? The founders and investors. The employees don’t any real substantial risk, not like the aforementioned does.

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Bigcola OP Jun 4, 2018

Employees don’t take risk? They are there commonly from MVP. And nowadays founders pay themselves handsomely from Day 1 with shorter vesting schedules (and $0 strike price).

Google lena33 Jun 5, 2018

+1 not the same risks for employees

Google bEdY35 Jun 4, 2018

Best thing you can do is not work at a startup and educate people. Pay will only increase once they run out of suckers to buy their lottery tickets.

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Bigcola OP Jun 4, 2018

Yeah, this is what I was trying to say.

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Clearing Jun 4, 2018

As a former founder and someone who has been at three startups, I concur with OP. Only way to solve it is if good talent realize this sooner rather than later and stop joining startup unless equity proportionately compensates for risks.

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Clearing Jun 4, 2018

Not everyone is an engineer and not everyone joins early

WalmartLabs rand.randm Jun 5, 2018

What do you think is a good equity for employees then? You have a limited pool to share ?

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Xarg Jun 5, 2018

That's too bad then. Suck it up. The moment you are coming into a company and they are paying you a reasonable base your risk is reduced while they had to struggle to get there. Only fair.

Instacart *️⃣ Jun 5, 2018

Yeah, it basically never makes sense to be employee #1. Almost same risk as founders, significantly less reward.