“TC”, Total Compensation annual or just in an offer
I feel like different scales are being used for total compensation. When someone says their “TC: 400k, Google” are they saying that their salary, bonus, and stock vested THAT YEAR get their reported income to 400k? I feel like some people are saying their whole RSU package for a 4 year time span are part of their total compensation
Include stock vested that year (RSU/4) not total. If its Amazon, assume that they included total RSUs and feel sorry for them.
I know right ... a lot of people have messed up numbers on levels.fyi by putting their total on hire RSU 🙄
@fuckFang exactly!
What makes you think some people are saying their whole RSU package as part of their total compensation?
Nah, 99% people are reporting correctly. RSU divided by 4. Besides 400k TC is not even outrageous
Wow not outrageous at CISCO? I dont think CISCO pays that well
I wasnt saying it was outrageous, I was saying I dont believe people are using the same scales. What a weird community
It is RSU/4. I don’t know anyone that includes there total stock grant when calculating TC.
OP here, I have also seen recruiters mess this up. Both third party and internal (non-FAANG)
Microsoft does that in our internal tool in order to make us thing we are making a lot 😂
OP, everyone knows how to divide by 4 and calculate TC. Yes many people make more than 400k and it's very common these days. Chill.
I know how to divide by 2 and then 2 one more time, yet my TC is nowhere close to 400k It gives some pressure and back thought to join FAANG gang.
I said I think people are not using the same scale, I have no opinion on 400k it was an arbitrary example. Why is this community toxic (not just this thread, reading plenty others)
Look at Glassdoor salaries. You don't see total comp until you click on the exact job position ie senior SWE, only then will you know stock and bonus numbers. Starting at L5 total comp can be 50% stock at some companies, > 50% at L6.
I personally dont include RSU as part of TC. Not every company actually makes money from their RSUs so it isn’t consistent. Also things can change. Netflix stock went down in the past 6 months from almost 400 to almost 250 — does your TC change? It technically does but when reporting to others it shouldn’t. IMO TC should be what you can take home at the end of the year excluding taxes etc in terms of pay. Everything else part of the package mention separately.
There are circumstances where your second paragraph contradicts the first
Yes and that inconsistency is another reason why you don’t include it. “Certain circumstances” isnt good enough. Might as well include referral bonuses while you’re at it then.
My partner annual comp at MSFT not including sign on RSU (but all others) is $780K. L68 —use that as a benchmark
I do salary + bonus + RSU + refresher + sign on bonus averaged over 4 years. I don’t count stock appreciation. When I say 400k TC, I mean that the average I earn in each of those years is 400k. If I included my whole 4 year RSU as part of my TC then it would be 1M... I don’t think anyone does that.
Agreed. It should be for that year, however