Laid off a couple months ago and recently received two offers for senior PM roles. Both are in platform backend roles. Both are hybrid. If anyone has opinions on WLB or culture I’d love to hear it. TikTok - 285k TC (185k/400k stocks) Tesla - $250k TC (175k/400k stocks) For everyone else looking for roles, neither company budged with negotiations. The only calls I’ve gotten for interviews so far were from internal referrals. Terrible market.
Both likely toxic environments. TikTok more at risk of shutting down and stock may not have any intrinsic value.
TikTok to meta can be easy in a couple of years
Are you Chinese? If so, do you speak mandarin? If the answer to either of those questions is no then take the Tesla role. You will not be set up to succeed in product at TikTok
If you don’t speak Chinese you will be set up for WLB at tiktok
I would do TikTok. Both seem equally toxic but I wouldn’t base my decision on the possibility that the boneheads in Washington will actually do something and ban TikTok. If it does come to that, China will sell/spin off over losing their biggest market. Second, TikTok still has some growth potential. Tesla is overvalued and with musk distracted, I don’t see them keeping up with the competition long-term. Tesla is already lagging severely from a design pov and everyone else’s tech is catching up quick
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Dude these are top opportunities but you managed to find the two companies facing extinction events - one by regulation and the other by their own CEO 😭 I like both products but wouldn’t join either company 😳
What level is TikTok?
I've been at TT for almost a year now and unless you speak Mandarin, you definitely will struggle more than others. It's manageable but theres definitely a sense of favoritism and bias towards chinese speakers. People will often speak chinese to each other without consideration for you being in the room/meeting. This is the case in the US offices as well. Also important to consider that the stocks at TT may have no value - as it has non IPOed yet and the chances of it doing so, quite honestly are slim. That said, I dont know what the culture at tesla is like but I doubt it is worse than TT.
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