Twitch or Cruise

May 25, 2018 55 Comments

I am working at Amazon Seattle since last 3 years. Want to move to SF/Bay area to be closer to my GF working at FB, MPK..

I don't want to continue working for Amazon teams, so, I spoke to a manager at Twitch, just to have one offer in hand to speed up my move... Received an offer from them. No change in TC though.

I m interviewing with Cruise automation as well. Cleared phone interview.. Not sure it's worth while going through thier on-site..

What do you guys think about Cruise vs Twitch??

Both are in SF and I am looking to work/stay in SF.. my GF also likes to stay in SF.. she is willing to take FB shuttle to travel.. I don't want to join FB so not trying there.. we both think it's not a good idea to work in same company..

Just to give you guys a perspective, I rejected Salesforce offer for Lead MTS as I think their tech stack is too old.. (that's what I think, not trying to offend anyone)... During interviews I realized that they were trying to solve problems which were already resolved in the industry.. also their TC was bit lower.. after all negotiations they offered TC of $270k...

Note: For few curious mind, my current TC is $290+k with all stock price appreciation... Work experience: 5 years.
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TOP 55 Comments
  • Intel
    IntelAlum

    Intel

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    Intel
    IntelAlummore
    Cruise, twitch isnt doing much these days and arent they having issues of their own with layoffs and losing money constantly for amazon?
    May 25, 2018 11
    • Amazon UUaT37cd
      OP
      @Cruise folks, did any of your PSUs vest since the time you joined?? Recruiter said PSUs have increment vesting based on many milestones..
      May 25, 2018
    • Cruise Automation / Eng ✉️
      They vested earlier this year. They have definitely vested before
      May 25, 2018
  • Twitch / Mktg
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    Twitch Mktg

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    Amazon
    ▫️more
    You done fucked up rejecting Salesforce, most people to leave Twitch go there for 1.5 times the pay and zero times the headaches.
    May 25, 2018 9
    • Twitch gachiBASS
      there’s a major re org every few months as well MKTG. i’ve been through 3 in 2 years
      Jun 24, 2018
    • Disney / Other
      Nipha

      Disney Other

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      Autodesk, PopSugar
      Niphamore
      Are all these reorganization moving things in a good direction?
      Feb 27, 2019
  • New / Eng
    Luffy, M.D

    New Eng

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    BIO
    Prematurely grumpy old man
    Luffy, M.Dmore
    Would you rather change the future of transportation, or help people too lazy to play video games themselves watch showoffs play video games?

    I got a negative vibe when I interviewed at Twitch phone + online tech challenge (didn't come on site.) That said, the volume of livestreaming they do IS pretty cool from a tech challenge sense.

    Really liked Cruise. Got an offer, nearly took it. TC would have been slightly higher than where I eventually joined. Tech stack was a little disjointed but loved the problems they were trying to solve. Seemed like a fast place pace, but everyone there said WLB was decent.
    May 25, 2018 8
    • Tinder / Eng
      meowimacat

      Tinder Eng

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      Microsoft
      BIO
      Im a cat! Meow 🐈
      meowimacatmore
      Can I DM you about the cruise interview?
      May 26, 2018
    • New / Eng
      Luffy, M.D

      New Eng

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      Facebook
      BIO
      Prematurely grumpy old man
      Luffy, M.Dmore
      Yeah, absolutely. Don't know that my particular experience is representative but glad to discuss it.
      May 26, 2018
  • Twitch 🌲50TC
    Had the same option and went with Twitch. 0 regrets
    May 25, 2018 0
  • Twitch 3YmbE8qZ5P
    Cruise. No doubts.. it's difficult to get promo or salary hikes or good RSU refreshers at Twitch.... I received 0% base pay increase and 0 RSUs refresher back in April review cycle with exceeds expectation rating..... No additional RSU refresher was expected due to Amazon policy.... but 0% base pay increase?? Seriously Twitch?? I am not even worth a percentage more than last year...

    I am looking outside as well.. Cruise is in my targeted companies list..
    May 27, 2018 1
    • Cruise Automation Iamamar
      Oh... RSU refreshers aren’t really a thing at Cruise.
      May 31, 2018
  • Twitch JingYan
    Cruise
    May 25, 2018 1
    • Twitch / Mktg
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      Twitch Mktg

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      Amazon
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      Sup, Matt.
      May 25, 2018
  • Twitch LOG32
    Oh, god, you need to watch out for cruise. Cruise has an insane head of engineering from Uber that exemplified all the bad qualities of it.

    I believe he was even one of the people who was in the news and got fired from Uber because of it... And then cruise came along and put him in charge of their whole engineering department!
    Jun 14, 2018 2
    • Twitch / Ops
      BrianEno

      Twitch Ops

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      Microsoft
      BrianEnomore
      There, there
      Jun 14, 2018
    • Cruise Automation / Eng pr8717
      That guy is no longer with us.
      Jun 14, 2018
  • Twitch / Eng getitnow
    Cruise. If the Twitch org is Creator Experience or Commerce, then there’s a small chance you might enjoy your team and work. Otherwise 70% chance you’ll join a dumpster fire
    May 25, 2018 2
    • Twitch pepelefrog
      I’d say the live video teams seem generally happy. Maybe a few more other pockets.
      May 26, 2018
    • Twitch J Z
      Meh. There are enough teams that are pretty good. Most complaints are about comp, not work.
      May 28, 2018
  • Twitch hahha
    Pick Twitch. No change in TC, no change in company (Amazon). Move to SF, see if you enjoy Twitch. If not, spend few months preparing for Google/Fb and switch. Cruise is garbage. Interviewed and decided to stay at Twitch. If you pick the right team, twitch tech can be very interesting and better than many at Google.
    May 23, 2019 3
    • Twitch hahha
      I didn’t get that feeling when I interviewed. They’re behind Waymo, Tesla and possibly aurora. GM acquired and now doesn’t want to fund the tech. Got Honda and SoftBank on to fund. It’s about finding edge cases now, and that’s just crunching miles and scenarios.
      May 23, 2019
    • New / Eng
      sumanguru

      New Eng

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      sumangurumore
      Do you know anything about GraphQL API team?
      7d
  • Twitch J Z
    Twitch is not a bad option at all. There are some really challenging and interesting work. Not all teams are the same. That’d be the case even if you go to Google/FB. In fact, google has a lot more boring/crappy teams with proven employees take up most interesting problems. Twitch on the other hand still has a lot of opportunities. I can’t conmment about Cruise.

    Most people complain about Twitch is usually the Amazon comp structure. But if you’ve amazon stock and don’t mind the structure, you’ll have interesting problems for sure.
    May 25, 2018 1
    • New / Eng
      sumanguru

      New Eng

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      sumangurumore
      Do you know anything about GraphQL API team?
      7d

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