Tech IndustrySep 30, 2022
HopperBarnaHop

What do you think of this offer?

I am based in Barcelona Spain. I was working remotely for Hopper as a lead Android Engineer with a TC: 200k(150k base, 50k RSUs) but I was extremely bored and unhappy after 7 months of work then I got laid off for financial troubles. Before I worked at Glovo as tech lead then a member on the platform team with TC: 100K€(70 base, 30 RSUs) where I spent 3 years. Now I just received an offer from Trainline for a principal android engineer position with base: 105k and 5000 RSUs with a 3 year cliff vesting period, which are worth today 1.5m GBP, after a 40% drop from its ATH. Do you think this is a good move? Thx in advance Edit: I added a poll. Also the stocks are vested fully after a 3 year cliff. YOE: 10 years Glovo is a private company just sold to delivery hero and triggered a liquidity event allowing me to cash out. Last mile delivery industry Hopper is a private company with '2 years till IPO', but I didn't vest a single stock but the severance was good. Travel + fintech Trainline is a public company. Green travel #tech #android #principal

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AmerisourceBergen skrskrrrrr Sep 30, 2022

No, it's terrible.

Hopper BarnaHop OP Sep 30, 2022

Why so?

Palantir hsiaena Sep 30, 2022

Are you joking? If that's a 4 year vest, then your TC is 525k. That's amazing.

Squirro chsquirrel Sep 30, 2022

Whoa, that's an amazing package! If you don't mind me asking, how many total years of experience do you have? You must be a rockstar as an engineer :D

Hopper BarnaHop OP Sep 30, 2022

Thanks 😊 10 years of experience

Meta supyoyo Sep 30, 2022

Poll.

Datadog freakycat Sep 30, 2022

3 year cliff usually means you vest no stocks until you complete 3 years. Aren’t you worried they’ll fire you after 2 years and 11 months?

Hopper BarnaHop OP Sep 30, 2022

Yes I am, but the guy I am replacing has been there for 6 years

Hopper BarnaHop OP Sep 30, 2022

Also it's not easy to fire someone in Spain. Labor laws here are good

Brex tghshej Oct 4, 2022

I’m considering an offer from hopper, are they having layoffs?

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zjWD48 Oct 5, 2022

I’m ex-hopper. Would seriously consider any other opportunity. Have over 12 YOE, and can say hopper was by an enormous margin the worst combination of WLB/TC/Personal Growth/Career Growth/Pure chaos/incompetent management/misleading company I have ever been at.

Hopper PoiW56 Oct 7, 2022

We are not having layoffs. We have lots of cash and runway is very long. zjWD48 has been posting the comment above in every Hopper related thread for some reason, but most people have a positive experience. Turnover is low and personal growth opportunities are abundant. Great TC - base is very competitive and the stock upside is huge.

Vectra AI hBWM31 Oct 7, 2022

Trainline's current stock price is 325GBX. GBX is in pence. You're looking at 5000 x 3.3GBP = 16,500GBP after 3 years.

Hopper BarnaHop OP Oct 7, 2022

I wanna cry

Vectra AI hBWM31 Oct 7, 2022

sorry for ruining your day. have you already accepted?

Datadog freakycat Oct 7, 2022

BarnaHop, I hope you’re alright… If this is the case, I’d also would’ve missed something like this… This sucks

Hopper BarnaHop OP Oct 7, 2022

The worst thing is that when I was negotiating the recruiter didn't say anything when I mentioned the stock is 200 pounds less than the ATH

Squirro superswiss Oct 8, 2022

This is the saddest thing I have read on this app 😢