Would you keep dating this girl 3 months in?

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Asian girl age 25 with a math background from a top public university. Was an exec for a hedge fund at age 23 and started a company at age 24. Did well at first and then things got rough. She’s not paid herself the last two years, living off of savings from investing and past salary. High risk but well respected in her field and fun personality.

Intense at work and loving and compassionate within relationships. She likes her partner to always pay for dates (just her style) and gives in other ways like affection, gifts, loyalty.

She looks great on paper but you find out she has $10K in credit card debt and is currently barely getting by. But she is cool, persistent, strong character, confident, has a high EQ/IQ, and people love and respect her. She loves you like no one else has before. She has huge potential.

Would you dump her because of her current financial situation? Would you love her if she failed at everything if she kept trying or would you look for a girl with a better financial situation?

Would you consider asking her to live with you without asking for rent money?

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TOP 155 Comments
  • Micro Focus / Eng chmod777
    Well, she definitely shouldn’t be dating a guy like you
    May 30 12
    • Booking.com m87hj0v
      The times where weddings were solely for financial or power reasons are long behind us, no?
      May 30
    • New / Other
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      @m87hj0v but I pay for all the dinners
      May 30
    • Amazon boyoboy
      She should not be dating you moron
      May 30
    • New / Data tVMh86
      shes with u for the dinners
      May 30
    • New / Other
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      Lol really? She basically jumps on me when she sees me and wants intimacy more than I do.
      May 30
    • Uber tnnb
      Oof what a waste. Set her free op, she's gonna be sad for a while but then find someone that doesn't make a post on Blind asking whether she's worth it.

      Actually, try telling her about this post.
      May 30
    • New / Consultant
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      Oh my goodness!!! This is what I am talking about in my question on Romance women’s TC to men’s TC when dating. I want to throw up 🤢. I would cry for months if I found out that the guy I thought was amazing and giving my everything to was considering dumping me because I’m not successful enough in his eyes. Wow! I hate people. I’m going to be alone forever!!
      May 30
    • Uber tnnb
      It's not that bad @LHBR. look through these replies and you'll see nobody agreeing with this idiot op. Most of us are fine.
      May 30
    • Kaiser Permanente pagz54
      Paying for dinner is cheaper than the alternative 😉.
      May 30
    • Microsoft katakar
      Def. a keeper. But she won't stay after she has made it. You don't seem like one☹️
      Jun 2
  • Postmates setamtsoP
    Seems like a keeper. Financial situation might be temporary, personality traits matter more.
    May 30 1
    • Twitch jellybeano
      Financial situation is a reflection of her judgement.

      Money and kids: always see eye to eye with your partner on these.
      May 30
  • New / Legal jGGW76
    It’s shitty to even consider not dating someone because they are going through a rough time financially.
    May 30 4
    • New / Other
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      Is it too much if I ask her to move in with me and I will support her, knowing very well she can and has supported herself?
      May 30
    • New / Legal jGGW76
      I’m confused. Your original post asks if you should even date her. Now you’re considering asking her to move in? Are you currently dating her? Living with someone is a huge deal and shouldn’t be taken lightly or entered into with someone you barely know.
      May 30
    • New / Other
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      I’m just wondering what other people would do. I go back and forth from “maybe timing is poor” to “I want to take care of you and get rid of your struggles.” Have been dating for 3 months and she is the perfect girl. I’m also a engineer and a founder but don’t get paid an extreme amount.
      May 30
    • Amazon / Eng ewjX55
      Im not sure what your deal is. You just trashed her for having financial difficulties while shes doing a startup. Like did u really think creating a company was all rainbows?
      Honestly, i dont think ypure ready to move in at all. Youre saying u wanna just get rid of her issues like its gonna be all easy. But moving in with someone is not easy, and you dont do it to "fix" them.
      Also 10k is nothing. Just wait till you have kids and a house. Shit will really hit the fan
      May 30
  • Booking.com m87hj0v
    "Asian girl [...]" Yes.
    May 30 1
  • Booking.com martinisux
    LOL there is existence for such post.
    first of all, I'm telling myself why on earth do I bother commenting and giving advice.

    so here we go - looks like the girl is a pampered spoilt child who has not seen struggles of life. good things never last, looks and materials too. she should change for the fact that she expect man to pay for dates. I'm a woman, I dont ask man to pay, or go on Dutch. in life we should not be calculative but we should nog be stupid too. YOU on the other hand dont deserve to love or to be loved (I hope you change) if you are even considering not to be with her for debts and when times got rough, and seems like you are too superficial about status.
    May 30 8
    • New / Other
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      She is not pampered actually. She grew up lower middle class. She gives thoughtful gifts and every time we hangout, she always comes to me. Sometimes she will pick up food for us. Why is she spoiled for liking me to take care of dates when she gives me a lot? She’s also taught me to be a better person and has helped my friends get jobs. She’s really intelligent.
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      then why are you thinking too much to bail out.
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      virtues and values are very important. the fact you think of charging rent and want her only if she has good financial situation is a shit thing.
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      you didnt mention the good side of her. she gives and you take. now when she is not in her good times, you are reconsidering...... goodnesss
      May 30
    • Tutanota / Eng
      🆗🆒🆒

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      It didn’t seem like a give and take relationship from your original post.
      May 30
    • New / Other
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      @martinisux because we are young but when I first met her I knew she was the girl I wanted to marry and I still feel that way. But it is stressful because we are both trying to run companies.
      May 30
    • New / Other
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      @tutanota I travel a lot but surprise her with gifts occasionally and do take her out to dinner when we have time.
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      come on good things doesnt last. tough times doesnt last too :)
      May 30
  • Amazon FTWLeeter
    I paid off all of my wife's debts when we married - that's how it's supposed to be
    May 30 3
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      Honor. A man of honor... Love eternal.
      May 30
    • Microsoft Blah.
      I did the same, but only because I knew it was student loans and not due to her being irresponsible with her money.
      May 30
    • Amazon FTWLeeter
      Yep, same here
      May 30
  • Pure Storage YhGy64
    I say this completely seriously, not trying to be insulting. But you should start seeing a therapist and get a better understanding of yourself and how you want to relate to other people.
    May 30 2
    • Twitter Oomnj
      Always good to have relationship therapists anyway. Modern relationships are an uncharted territory and we don’t have a lot of history and traditional experiences to draw wisdom from.
      May 30
    • Nvidia wuwuw
      💯💯💯 I can't upvote this enough. You need a therapist to unravel this shit out.

      Therapy is the #1 reason how I've repaired/strengthened/created such strong relationships in my life.
      May 30
  • Intel LvOT55
    10k is PENNIES! she could pay that off with a sign on bonus if she decided to get a job. Although, if she's been living on savings and investments, why does she have credit card debt? What's her lifestyle like? Given her situation she really shouldn't have debt like that barring any like medical expenses or something drastic
    May 30 2
    • New / Other
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      Well, the company is running out of money and things needed to get paid so, along with her cofounders, she floated it. She was depressed for a little bit before me. Obviously she’s working on pivoting and either raising more or starting another company. She lives extremely lean and never asks for expensive things from me even though she likes her partners to pay for the dates. She told me she didn’t care if it costs nothing but that it was pure quality time.
      May 30
    • Microsoft idknbd
      lol at Intel thinking most industries offer sign on bonuses
      May 30
  • Facebook burnt_out
    She’s only with you for the financial support because she sounds out of your league if you’re asking questions like this.
    May 30 9
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      I am a founder with a Stanford CS degree. I have good pedigree. She is definitely the coolest girl I’ve met and I do not think I will meet another girl like her.
      May 30
    • Uber tnnb
      Then evidently either Stanford made a mistake letting you in or your IQ is indeed sufficient but your EQ / maturity are abysmal. Which is it?
      May 30
    • Qualcomm / Eng dynasty001
      Stanford CS is not that difficult if youre a minority candidate. I have had friends from Stanford CS. It is not MIT
      May 30
    • Microsoft Blah.
      Who the hell still refers to “pedigree”?!?
      May 30
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      @Blah. Probably a boring, ugly guy without a personality who instead upholds a pedigree ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      Jun 1
    • New / Other
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      Pedigree speaks to the ladies. And I’m a Founder. Haven’t made it big yet but we have about 100 people. She almost broke up with me this weekend but I asked her be patient with me because I’m just learning how to be a good boyfriend.
      Jun 3
    • Capital One
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      That’s not pedigree. Pedigree is that AI sDirector at Amazon with a German accent and 2 degrees from MIT who’s bones I want to jump or that IB MD who makes $3M in (quarterly?) bonuses that my friend is seeing. That’s what girls want, founder.
      Jun 3
    • Microsoft NYC..
      Keep talking about pedigree and being a founder and I’m going to agree with everyone else that says she should dump your ass.

      You’re clearly still to cocky, young, and dumb to have figured out what’s important in life. A hint, pedigree and being a founder ain’t it.
      Jun 3
    • Microsoft NYC..
      Oh, and none of that is “pedigree” either. Just plain old greedy gold digger right there.
      Jun 3
  • Amazon / Sales ChivalryAF
    🤣 OP over here acting like he’s a trust fund kid dating a low class human.

    Get outta here with your attitude. This girl deserves better than your entitled ass.
    May 30 0
  • Rally Health FuPayMe$$$
    If that isn’t a keeper then I don’t know what is.
    May 30 0
  • Booking.com martinisux
    then live within means.. you guys clearly are not the real self made people. go watch born in Gaza, and you will feel so thankful you are even here...
    May 30 9
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      I travel a lot and have an expensive lifestyle. Is it fair to think about dating the person who has a different lifestyle than you? She can’t come on trips with me.
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      I'm speechless. what do you really want in life!?
      May 30
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      I want a girlfriend. I thought about paying for her to join me but it’s an expensive flight.
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      ok break up with her.
      May 30
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      What why? I love her but I also want to be successful and make a lot of money. I do fear if I break up with her that I’ll never get her back because that’s what I’d try to do. But also I’d be leaving in this stressful time for her.
      May 30
    • Cisco -0.01
      @OP, you need to talk to your mom. You are too young for relationships.
      May 31
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      My mom likes her a lot and would probably agree I should marry her
      May 31
    • Cisco -0.01
      That’s the correct answer. Good luck bro!
      May 31
    • Target onlyshallow
      Jesus christ man. You're going to break up with a great girl cause she can't go on luxurious trips with you right this second?? This whole post is unbelievable. We need a word for this beyond fuckboy, you're a new breed.
      May 31
  • Tesla dizzypop
    I know of a cute Asian girl that sells her used underwear on internet - just an idea for when things get rough
    May 30 4
    • Twitch hahha
      Are you a customer?
      May 30
    • New / Eng
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      Sounds like a keeper
      May 30
    • Booking.com martinisux
      LOL
      May 30
    • Tesla dizzypop
      Hey at least it’s honest work, unlike pretending to be a “founder” and asking for dinner donations
      May 30
  • New / Mgmt
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    do her a favor and let her go
    she deserves someone better
    May 30 1
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      Lol. Thought the same
      May 30
  • Twitter chutya
    Keepher
    May 30 0
  • Twitter Oomnj
    How tall is she though?
    May 30 7
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      She’s very short but doesn’t matter
      May 30
    • Twitter Oomnj
      If it works for you then sure
      May 30
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      How tall does a girl need to be for you?
      May 30
    • Twitter Oomnj
      Ideally 6’, but I’ll take 5’10 and over. Obviously that’s without heels
      May 30
    • Facebook tTFN31
      lol are you like 6’5 or something?
      May 30
    • Google 5’7”
      Same want tall kids
      May 30
    • Twitter Oomnj
      “Great big monsters. They will conquer the world”
      May 30
  • Cisco xxxZyu
    I hope she is on Blind too and reading this ..what’s wrong with everyone nowadays? I thought love is purely based on emotions ,why is the financial aspect being even talked?
    May 30 2
    • Booking.com martinisux
      agree with you.
      May 30
    • Facebook / Eng yMvB87
      Love is but marriage isn't
      May 30
  • New / Sales
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    Imagine getting fired for leaking info on here when you used your company email to sign up......
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    Wow. Can’t believe I’m reading this. If her company takes off, she raises a round of capital, or she gets a job, her financial status can change within a matter of months. You’re focused on the wrong things, if you can’t afford to take her on dates, do things that don’t cost money, if it’s that big of a problem, break up with her.
    May 30 0
  • She shouldn’t be with someone like you. Obviously the bottom line is what matters the most for you. She sounds like a good girl
    May 30 0
  • Twitch hahha
    I think you should break up and give her my phone number. I’m not a startup founder. I’ve my emotional and financial shit together unlike you. DM me.
    May 30 0
  • Uber / Eng fomo
    Yeah you should dump her immediately, she needs to find someone in her league
    May 30 0
  • Universal Orlando Flying🛸
    Wow, if this is what SV dating is like, I'm going back to the sticks where people just care if you have a job, kids, and most of your teeth.
    May 30 0
  • OmegaFi jorquart
    Sounds like a keeper. Just be clear that her financial situation will not become YOUR financial situation if you two start dating. Paying for dates is no big deal, especially if you know the other party is trying to get on their feet. Just don't go out several times a week. Engage in low-no cost hobbies instead.
    May 30 1
    • Amazon echo $?
      ^^This. Her financial attitude is responsible, but she’s in some debt. That’s totally ok.
      May 31
  • Amazon mdllgo
    Sounds like you're debating about hiring her, more than dating!
    May 30 0
  • Oracle alwzangry
    She might be fun for dating, but you will have to ask her about LTR. She probably isn't going to marry or start a family in the foreseeable future. It will ruin her focus.
    May 30 6
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      I’m age 26. Me neither. But I want to be together. Timing may be off but I also don’t want to lose her or abandon her in this rough time. A part of me wants to ask her to live with me.
      May 30
    • Oracle alwzangry
      Then, if you have chemistry, why hesitate? You need to have a stronger mind, like hers.
      May 30
    • Facebook tTFN31
      You can marry and not start a family and that wont affect your focus...
      May 30
    • Oracle alwzangry
      It won't be much of a marriage then, except technically.
      May 30
    • Facebook tTFN31
      Why do you need kids for it to be a real marriage?
      May 30
    • Oracle alwzangry
      Why do you need a marriage if your focus isn't it? Same reason.
      May 30
  • Facebook / Eng offt
    Nonsense. Of course I'll date her
    May 30 3
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      Do you have enough TC to support a founder though? I make a low founder salary.
      May 30
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      Shit I do where do I sign up? 😅🤣
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    • New / Data tVMh86
      u make a low founder salary but complain about paying for dates?
      May 30
  • Cloudera ಠ╭╮ಠ
    Wasn't this just posted and deleted from the woman's perspective
    May 30 2
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      Yes because at first I didn’t want to sound like an asshole but realized I’d get more honest answers with my perspective.
      May 30
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      Hope she's not on here...
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  • Facebook lifeisgr88
    I’m surprised someone so immature as you is trying to run a company! I can’t care less about your credentials. I hope she sees this post and sees you for who you really are. For someone who claim to have an expensive lifestyle, you worrying about paying for dinner seems so pathetic.
    May 30 1
    • SAP tmmp
      Yes, lack of maturity is the key thing coming across here, especially with regards to OP.
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  • Discover Financial Services qwerty-/:
    Looks like OP is the young Asian girl. She is telling her story
    May 30 1
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      Nah I just know it well
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  • OP you are a jerk and clearly do not deserve her. Sorry could not have said it any different
    May 30 0
  • Postmates dancingkng
    Sounds like the only person who doesn’t have their shit together is you. You are wavering between dumping her and wanting to live with her after 3 months of dating. She’s proven that she can make money, and is taking a risk right now. Haven’t read the same thing about you yet.
    May 30 0
  • Facebook / Strategy missamber
    Most people have more than 10k in student loan debt. If you’re actually considering stumping someone that “loves you like no one else does” because of such a trivial thing, you don’t deserve her.
    May 30 0
  • Snapchat pills
    You should always consider your potential partners spending habits and debt, as it's indicative of certain qualities. That being said 10k isn't that much. But perhaps stick it out longer but pay attention

    The people saying you shouldn't care about it at all are stupid.
    May 30 8
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      She says she wants to take on more risk soon. I have no debt, and never have I ever had credit card debt. So yes, I do consider that. But is my love for her more important? Should I wait til I make a certain amount of money so I can support her risk? Maybe by that time she’ll have a lot of money of her own anyway.
      May 30
    • Snapchat pills
      I mean it's not like you're getting married any time soon. You can still be dating but not assume any fiduciary responsibility. I would not pay her debts or try to help her financially. Hopefully in time she gets to a better place
      May 30
    • Snapchat pills
      To add though, she seems pretty smart and driven, if I had to make a prediction, she'll be fine eventually
      May 30
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      @pills idk man. A part of me has the all or nothing mentality.
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      And yeah. Extremely smart
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    • Microsoft Blah.
      What pills said. Absolutely do not assume any financial responsibility at this point. Pay for dates, but draw the line there.
      May 30
    • SAP tmmp
      OP, honestly you seem a little immature. Both of you. And not ready to get married. But you are young, why are you so worried about immediately deciding about whether to leave her or commit for eternity? As someone else suggested, you both could continue dating, and I guess, in time, it'll become clearer if both of you are fit to be a couple (for life) or are better off going your own ways.
      May 30
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      I think she is the one. I had this feeling the moment I started dating her and I still feel this way. I don’t want to lose her.
      May 30
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    At first I thought you were talking about a new hire.

    Anyway, I would probably hire her. But most likely not be involved with her romantically
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    • New / Other
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      Why wouldn’t you date her?
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    • New / Other
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      How old are you?
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    • New / Eng
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      She can't handle money well. But expects others to pay for her.
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      How old are you?
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  • Google Narpreet
    Are you Indian?
    May 30 4
    • Twitch hahha
      He’s a white dude with rich parents and went to Stanford. Also probably the reason Asian girl is with such a guy.
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      I am a European that grew up in a poor family. Got a full ride.
      May 30
    • Twitch hahha
      Full ride guy first posts as a girl because doesn’t want to be seen as an asshole. Go away!
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      Ok
      May 30
  • Twitch rmla12
    Man up OP.

    Imagine both of you loose everything you are working so hard for. Will you stick with her then? Will she stick with you?

    At 26, it might feel like money is the most important thing in life. It’s not. Personal values and long term relationship thinking will go much further in life and will result in more permanent happiness for both of you.

    Instead of posting on blind, plan your future for when you guys will be 35, 40, 50.

    People change all the time but if you agree on core values, you both will have lasting happiness together.
    May 30 0
  • Again keeper but ask yourself if you deserve her ??
    May 30 0
  • Amazon DaReelReal
    If you are white, then yes.
    May 30 0
  • VMware / Eng
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    She knows that age is by her side. She can take risks now and can later always find a great paying job if entrepreneur ship does not work out. 10k debt living as an entrepreneur is nothing.

    You may not invest in her business but if she is there for you.

    If you are not interested in her. Can you please recommend me to her.
    May 30 2
    • New / Other
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      Are you saying you would take her in? She’s also an all or nothing type of person.
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    • VMware / Eng
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      Yes I am saying she sounds like someone I would like to be with. Supporting you gf is nothing wrong. S
      May 31
  • Microsoft Blah.
    First thing to consider, finance issues are one of the top causes of divorce. For this reason I would be extremely skeptical. I would have a serious conversation with her to make sure your views on money are similar.

    As some said, $10k is a small amount for some...but it’s a huge amount for others. The question really is, is she paying the statement balance each month from her savings/investments or is she carrying that balance and paying interest? What are the sources of the debt? Did she spend it all on clothes or was there some sort of life expense that was unavoidable? What is her attitude about that debt? Does she see it as something she needs to address quickly?

    Based on her history I would hope the conversation including questions like those above show that she has a healthy respect for money and her desire to keep her debt to a minimum. But if the answer is that she can’t pass a Jimmy Choo store without breaking a sweat, run! (Unless you have those same values as well as the means to pay for that kind of lifestyle...which I’m guessing someone who posts something like this does not).

    There are many other important things to consider when choosing a partner, but finances should be something you spend a LOT of time talking about if you decide to get more serious and consider marriage.
    May 30 2
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      She does not spend money on shopping. She spent that money on her company. She is good at making money and took a risk where she lost it all.
      May 30
    • Microsoft Blah.
      Then as long as you agree on how you view money (make sure to have those conversations), I’d say stick with her.
      May 30
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  • Microsoft pJcW86
    You make this founders thing sound so important and money, tc, and her being a "founder" hahaha damn you need get that stick out of your butt and relax.

    That's the startup life by the way, sometimes you win some, most of the time you lose and have to eat cheap food and live out of someone's house for awhile. Doesn't sound like you are truly in for start-up life other than chase prestige and tc. She seems more of the startup type.

    Unless you IPO or get bought your "founders" status means squat, anyone can be a founder and designate themselves a CEO for a few hundred dollars to file a corporation with the secretary of state and put CEO and co-founder in their LinkedIn.
    May 30 1
    • Microsoft Blah.
      My question would be, is she eating cheap? Is she adjusting her lifestyle to match her current financial situation? This is how to really judge this situation. $10k can be paid off, but if her attitude about money isn’t healthy, this will be a lifelong issue in a marriage. This is why people need to have serious conversations about money before serious commitment/marriage to make sure their values are aligned.
      May 30
  • Bahaha 3 months and she’s already got you by the balls man. Takes years to know someone, you’re dumb ass is just crazy with LUST not love.
    May 30 0
  • Intel D’s🥜
    Let the bots catch her resume. Looks like you should hire her as your wife /s
    May 30 0
  • Microsoft vTk96
    Almost all relationships do not have equal TC. What are you afraid might happen if you keep dating this person?
    May 30 0
  • Booking.com martinisux
    young kids like you all goodness....God riddance I dont know what else to say...
    May 30 0
  • Autolist eFks14
    Yes, if she's hot. Her financials are good. 10k in credit card is nothing. Most of us are still paying for college and cars loans at her age lol
    May 30 1
    • Cisco cbd
      Looks fade
      May 30
  • Microsoft Caezure
    Sounds like a keeper and investment that will pay off in the future. Looks like all upside to me.
    May 30 0
  • SAP tmmp
    What do you mean by 'all or nothing type'? You've mentioned it before
    May 31 0
  • Drift UOSN85
    Only one correct answer, ATD
    May 30 0

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