Tech IndustryDec 7, 2017
AmazonQTah52

Leaving Amazon for Goldman Sachs

Anyone has experience working in both Amazon and Goldman Sachs as developer? What do you guys think the difference in experiences are? Base pay is about 40% higher. Worth switching?

Microsoft Thdjwjdhhs Dec 7, 2017

What is annual bonus at Goldman Sachs?

Amazon QTah52 OP Dec 7, 2017

Not sure. Haven't discussed that yet, will discuss that with the recruiter. Or does anyone in blind know about the bonus?

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batwoman Dec 7, 2017

No.

Amazon QTah52 OP Dec 7, 2017

Why not? Would like to hear your thoughts

Facebook fbanondead Dec 7, 2017

Goldman Sachs is further away from software. Although Amazon also doesn’t care too much about their engineers, Goldman Sachs cares even less. You are a cost center.

Microsoft AppleAWS Dec 7, 2017

What if it changes its core to put more focus on software? Automation is happening in fintech and with enough emphasis on AI and big data, I guess software engineers could eventually dominate the company. That is if there is enough competition from software based financial companies affecting its core business bottom line.

One Click Politics neonBelly Dec 7, 2017

^ he gets the long term viz

GoDaddy SawyerX Dec 7, 2017

Working on secdb or something else?

Amazon QTah52 OP Dec 7, 2017

Not the secdb, this role is for a different platform team in London

GoDaddy SawyerX Dec 7, 2017

I’ll say Amazon is better then, non secdb work usually mean middle/back office tech

Microsoft blind2 Dec 7, 2017

How much GS is paying? Also how many years of experience you had in Amazon?

Amazon QTah52 OP Dec 7, 2017

Been at Amazon for 3 years. Not sure if exact pay is relevant, happy to pm you the details if you're interested.

Amazon madBreed Dec 7, 2017

I'm interested, and others would be too! Do reveal compensation if you don't mind. Allows people to guage the market.

Goldman Sachs chinchill Dec 7, 2017

What will you be doing, as specific as you can describe? I may be able to give you a rough estimate of the 'importance' of the role/team/product.

Amazon QTah52 OP Dec 7, 2017

From what I gather, it's a developer role in internal UX platform team. The recruiter said it's VP level. But she also added the hierarchy is flat in Goldman Sachs. Is that true?

Salesforce RodC7 Dec 7, 2017

VP at financial firm is 46% of their population. Don’t read anything in VP title ... people with couple of years of experience make associate VP and then VP ... fin services, director role is usually higher than VP

Amazon Thanos Dec 7, 2017

Vp at banking is like sr manager in amazon

Expedia pfender Dec 7, 2017

More like L6

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kqms16 Dec 7, 2017

yeah at blk analyst, associate, vp, director, md. the bulk of the population is vp.

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kqms16 Dec 7, 2017

blk === blackrock

Deutsche Bank LPeJ52 Dec 8, 2017

NO. Apart from an inflated title of Vice President you get nothing . 40% hike in base is good , but bonus will be small and dependent on company/division performance. Have you checked insurance - if you need to pay for it ? You will be part of middle/back office IT - one of the lowest rungs in an Investment bank. And prepare to really slog - GS is known for putting in long hours , very long

Deutsche Bank LPeJ52 Dec 8, 2017

If you really want to explore you can join - if you don't like it you can always leverage the VP title and get more hike