Tech IndustryOct 16, 2022
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Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 10/17/22

Creating a separate thread to track the any progress on this topic for this week. There has be a tremendous response and a ton of useful information posted in the past 2+ months. In the last 4 weeks, the views/comments have trended lower and hence I created a quick pool within this thread. 87% of the respondents wanted me to continue this weekly thread. Let us continue doing so going in to week #11 (post official freeze date - 08/05/2022). FYI, the summary is updated every week with some nuances. Summary from past few weeks: 1. Google is NOT under a hiring freeze anymore. A freeze by definition is ZERO new offers being extended and that is not the case. We saw offers being generated in some selected orgs since week of 08/15/2022 and more candidates have gotten clarity, either moved forward or back to TM. 2. The above statement does not mean that hiring is back in full swing, in fact far from it. Critical roles are being prioritized and suitable candidates are being moved forward in the process. Open positions pre to post freeze have almost been slashed by more than 70%. Impacting most of L3/L4 positions. L3 positions seem feasible only in 2023 (with some exceptions) and L4 seem to dwindle down rapidly (with some exceptions). Several L5/L6/L7 positions have been cut in the last few weeks. GCP Update: Several cuts even in L6/L7 positions in GCP. With that being said, traditionally Google also ramps up on hiring in Q4, this year appears to be different. Google is shifting focus to prioritize more on the revenue generators as opposed to cost centers. Days of pet projects and pure research might be behind us. REST and VEST might have finally caught up with Google. To be honest, if you don't hear by end of October then 2023 might be the next stop. 3. I cannot emphasize enough of how important it is for you to have a great relationship with your RC. It is up to them to set you up with currently approved open roles. They generally like to keep you role/location/level in finding these matches. Try to stand out as the positions/candidates ratio has dramatically shifted. Most RCs know a lot less than the collective wisdom we gather from threads like this, but being in touch with RC is beneficial especially if you have not had a TM or back in the line cuz the role that you were previously matched is gone. This means you can expect anywhere from a purely TM get to know call with a HM to a semi-interview style approach by them. Be very prepared for these calls. 4. Macroeconomic factors: Not directly related, but inflation not being tamed will pose a threat to the economy & a potential recession (at least that is the perception). The CPI number released on 10/13/2022 was higher than expected and hence takes away the FED pivot off the table (at least for now). This might force FED's hand to raise interest rates and funny money days are over. It means companies (including Google) tightening down their belt, bonuses, stock buy backs and most importantly head counts. The upside here is lower stock price = potentially more RSUs (if you can negotiate well). Brace yourself for a target of 3000-3300 fall in S&P and imagine what that could do to the corporate sentiment and hiring. October is also notorious for market crashes and market bottoms, not to mention that earnings from AAPL, GOOG, AMZN, MSFT & META to be released :) 5. Last but not the least, as frustrating as the current situation is... no point in flaring out on RCs, leadership at Google, etc. I rather have them think this through than HIRE in a rush only to FIRE after. Plus, nobody is stopping you from seeking other opportunities. It would be great to know if anyone (regardless of level, role, etc.) are receiving offers (share numbers if you are comfortable with it) and please post any useful updates provided by your recruiters. Just to standardize the format of information sharing, I urge everyone to follow this format: My Situation: Role/Level: Principal Architect (L7) Team & Location: GCP (Bay area) Last stage cleared: HC, TM done. Stuck in last stages of compensation negotiation when freeze started. Got an update on 09/23 that the team & HM that I was aligned with could not keep their HC. Next step: Almost all the Principal Architect positions have been deprioritized and only some verticals might have openings. They are trying to TM for one team and if does not work (I should have gotten an update this past week, but got GHOSTED by my RC). So, in short looks like this is NOT GONNA HAPPEN in 2022!!! Please refer here for this history of this thread. -------------------------------------------------------------- Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 10/10/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/ima1LSHZ [273 comments and 5.5K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 10/03/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/O3Cv2U4w [406 comments and 5.7K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 09/26/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/MWABMWbg [439 comments and 7.6K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 09/19/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/m7gK1UcU [675 comments and 10.1K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 09/12/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/VeNgYiq7 [790 comments and 15.6K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 09/05/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/eU6ccGYz [697 comments and 10.5K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 08/29/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/7yRsJsvc [707 comments and 15.7K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 08/22/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/gkOcYhaY [659 comments and 11.6K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 08/15/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/hS2HDS1W [608 comments and 10.7K views] Google Hiring Freeze Updates - Week of 08/08/22 https://www.teamblind.com/post/jwx8XnW2 [243 comments and 6.9K views] Do you find this thread useful/helpful? 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Amazon sexytimes Oct 16, 2022

Sheer amount of dedication is amazing

Instacart gTbv21 Oct 16, 2022

People are obsessed about Google, this is just sad

Google samsh45 Oct 16, 2022

Amazonians especially

Amazon blockpop Oct 16, 2022

It is depressing to see the plebs

Amazon kneedhelp Oct 16, 2022

Just wanna say thank you

Google data-lover Oct 16, 2022

Amazon : Give some work to this guy 😃

Microsoft kqFD81 Oct 16, 2022

If your recruiter is not responding anymore after letting you know that the feedback from on-sites is positive, does it make sense to reach out to another recruiter (who previously invited you to intervew) in order to expedite the process ?

Microsoft itsamemari Oct 16, 2022

No, I'd message the RC.

WarnerMedia touchgrass Oct 16, 2022

I think you should get the job based off of how well written this was

Unity fdicdxgk Oct 16, 2022

Offer signed last week. Thanks for keeping this alive, OP

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AI-ML-guy Oct 16, 2022

Which level and location ? Which product area ?

MathWorks LfLngLrnr Oct 17, 2022

When did you finish your onsite interviews and TMs with them?

Amazon MonToFri Oct 16, 2022

Hats off to OP’s dedication for putting a new thread religiously every Sunday and maintaining it. Clearly shows how passionate you are to your work and to Google both. It would be Amazon’s loss to lose you and Google would be lucky to have you. Good luck my friend.

Meta felice415 Oct 16, 2022

My recruiter told me they are closing my application (L5 SWE Bay Area) as they couldn't find any team for me, despite a few TM calls I took, no hiring managers picked me. Maybe they will reopen next year if the hiring situation improves. Good luck everyone!

Wish gdjka Oct 16, 2022

Do you have to redo interview when the head count available later?

Meta felice415 Oct 16, 2022

If it's in less than a year - no.

Adobe lowba Oct 16, 2022

I am sure you can become a great PM by the look of your organization and communication skills, if you cleared L7 bar, I hope you should be able to get in other top companies as well ! Good luck 👍