Creating a separate thread to track the any progress on this topic for this week. There has be a tremendous response and a ton of useful information posted in the past 2+ months. In the last 4 weeks, the views/comments have trended lower and hence I created a quick pool within this thread. 82% of the respondents wanted me to continue this weekly thread. Let us continue doing so going in to week #12 (post official freeze date - 08/05/2022). FYI, the summary is updated every week with some nuances. Summary from past few weeks: 1. Google is NOT under a hiring freeze anymore. A freeze by definition is ZERO new offers being extended and that is not the case. We saw offers being generated in some selected orgs since week of 08/15/2022 and more candidates have gotten clarity, either moved forward or back to TM. 2. The above statement does not mean that hiring is back in full swing, in fact far from it. Critical roles are being prioritized and suitable candidates are being moved forward in the process. Open positions pre to post freeze have almost been slashed by more than 70%. Impacting most of L3/L4 positions. L3 positions seem feasible only in 2023 (with some exceptions) and L4 seem to dwindle down rapidly (with some exceptions). Several L5/L6/L7 positions have been cut in the last few weeks. Last 2-3 weeks we have seen several L4/L5 positions offers. GCP Update: Several cuts even in L6/L7 positions in GCP. With that being said, traditionally Google typically ramps up on hiring in Q4, this year appears to be different. Google is shifting focus to prioritize more on the revenue generators as opposed to cost centers. Days of pet projects and pure research might be behind us. REST and VEST might have finally caught up with Google. To be honest, if you don't hear get a TM by end of October or early November then 2023 might be the next stop. 3. I cannot emphasize enough of how important it is for you to have a great relationship with your RC. It is up to them to set you up with currently approved open roles. They generally like to keep you role/location/level in finding these matches. Try to stand out as the positions/candidates ratio has dramatically shifted. Most RCs know a lot less than the collective wisdom we gather from threads like this, but being in touch with RC is beneficial especially if you have not had a TM or back in the line cuz the role that you were previously matched is gone. This means you can expect anywhere from a purely TM get to know call with a HM to a semi-interview style approach by them. Be very prepared for these calls. 4. Macroeconomic factors: Not directly related, but inflation not being tamed will pose a threat to the economy & a potential recession (at least that is the perception). This might force FED's hand to raise interest rates and funny money days are over. It means companies (including Google) tightening down their belt, bonuses, stock buy backs and most importantly head counts. The upside here is lower stock price = potentially more RSUs (if you can negotiate well). Brace yourself for a target of 3000-3300 fall in S&P and imagine what that could do to the corporate sentiment and hiring. We can also make a small case why the low might be in. October is also notorious for market crashes and market bottoms, not to mention that earnings from AAPL, GOOG, AMZN, MSFT & META to be released :) 5. Last but not the least, as frustrating as the current situation is... no point in flaring out on RCs, leadership at Google, etc. I rather have them think this through than HIRE in a rush only to FIRE after. Plus, nobody is stopping you from seeking other opportunities. It would be great to know if anyone (regardless of level, role, etc.) are receiving offers (share numbers if you are comfortable with it) and please post any useful updates provided by your recruiters. Just to standardize the format of information sharing, I urge everyone to follow this format: My Situation: Role/Level: Principal Architect (L7) Team & Location: GCP (Bay area) Last stage cleared: HC, TM done. Stuck in last stages of compensation negotiation when freeze started. Got an update on 09/23 that the team & HM that I was aligned with could not keep their HC. Next step: Almost all the Principal Architect positions have been deprioritized and only some verticals might have openings. They are trying to TM for one team and if does not work (I should have gotten an update last to last week, my RC was on PTO). No updates from RC this past week. So, in short looks like this is NOT GONNA HAPPEN in 2022!!! 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Should we continue the weekly Google Hiring Freeze Updates Thread? PLEASE VOTE BELOW!!!
I have a feeling most candidates will know their fate next week after the Q3 earnings on 25th this week.
> simping for google this hard C’mon buddy. Not worth. Just try for Two Sigma or Jane Street; they’re more prestigious nowadays.
Too bad you have to show up in-person on the East Coast. No remote work, no California offices (at least for TS and the other quant funds that tried to recruit me). That’s like an anti-perk in my book lol not to mention the other downsides
Ya, my buddy at your boston office said they’re dragging him back into the office. What’s up with that? He hit me up for a referral for Apple because I’m just ignoring the RTO mandate like everyone else and staying at home all week
Got a verbal offer with TM and HC done. In negotiation phase. Delayed by a couple of days due to diwali. Hoping for the best 🤞 Org - GCP Level - L4 SWE india YOE - 2 yrs Completed interviews post freeze. Thank you Op for all the efforts. I would really like to connect with you internally if you are comfortable.
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Finally get all the necessary HC approval. Working on the offer now
What level?
When did you hear back on HC approval?
Google lost this one unfortunately.
Yes it’s unfortunate reality …: waiting for team match after team match after team match and specially with lower number of open roles … lot of competition
Got an L3 offer for Seattle. Did TM recruiter never really mentioned HC. Seemed to be pretty limited headcount.
Congrats! How was the team match call for the team you matched with?
Limited headcount as in there weren’t that many applicants? Or that there are not a lot of available positions?
Made it through 3 team match calls for the same team. I had a blast and was told I did well but they chose someone with more domain specific experience which is fair. Still was able to have another TM call. Looking like we didn’t move forward on that one so I’m also looking at 2023. No worries on my end because I’d prefer to match well. And I’m not holding my breath for Google either. Still having amazing discussions and the greatest issue for me is just pay. No desire to drop from $360k to anything under unless it was a part time or contract role.
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L6 currently, aiming for L4
Should I tell my RC that I have other onsites lined up?
Jesus Christ, you kept track all of this?
hes is dedicated. Gotta give him credit. But F google, rejected me for something stupid. Not like the google i know of.
What was the stupid thing?